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MW2 developer chat reveals more bad news

Posted by Camiel jetset R. on 2009-11-04 12:37:07
Yesterday's developer chat hosted by BestBuy has revealed more bad news regarding the PC version of Modern Warfare 2, which will hit the stores in under a week from now. After Infinity Ward's new multiplayer model and their decision not to incorporate dedicated servers lead to a massive discussion across the various community forums, the results of yesterday's chat session will no doubt put more fuel on the fire.

In a community chat session with Mackey McCandlish, Ryan Lastimosa and Vince Zampella of Infinity Ward it has become apparant that there will be no console in Modern Warfare 2, stating "we would like you to play the game the way we designed and balanced it" when asked about the possibility to change the fov, remove perks and graphical debris and tweak the weapons for further balance.

In addition, the chat revealed that there will be no record option (for now) in MW2, nor the option to kick players out of ranked matches. Furthermore leaning will not be possible and no decisions have been made regarding mod tools, although the developers have indicated they are currently focussing on launching the game, as they are currently still working on finishing the game. This also means there are no plans for releasing a demo.

About the dedicated servers issue the developers have stated "nothing is ever off the table" and that they've seen the massive petition online. Whether they are aware of the ping problems IW.net will most likely cause is yet to be seen. The answer to a question regarding their ping during IW.net testing, "I've been playing mainly with around 100ms ping and it was great (Mackey-IW)", does not sound too promising.

Some of the more interesting questions can be found below. The full transcript with pc related questions can be found (HERE).

Is there lean in PC multiplayer.
Vince-IW: No.

You said IWnet was created to help stop piracy, what do you say about the Xbox 360 version leaked and shared on torrent sites?
Vince-IW: IWnet was designed to make the MP experience on PC easier and more balanced.

Will IW ever consider developing games on the PC to support dedicated servers, be it MW2 patches or future endeavors? Just curious if dedicated servers are on the radar anymore.
Mackey-IW: Our goal is to provide the best experience for our users, so nothing is ever "off the table". We are always evaluating our options.

Hello, are you considering ever patching in mod tools for the pc to make custom maps and such?
Mackey-IW: Right now we're focused on launching our game.
(LATER ON) Vince-IW: We haven't made any decisions regarding this yet.

Has IWnet been tested in European settings? My clan plays european leagues and we got ppl from Eastern europe, UK and Sweden meeting in the same match. How is this going to play out considering siginificant differences in Bandwith and connection qualities between players. Will host player always have the ping advantage. Can a match be hosted by 'third' person, not taking part in the match?
Mackey-IW: Players do not control who hosts.

Please give me a direct answer. On the PC version. Are all games hosted by players, and is there a 5 second delay when host migration is in effect?
Vince-IW: yes.

What are the current steps being taken in regard to active blocking measures that some major ISPs have taken regarding Peer 2 Peer connections, such as what Comcast does?
Mackey-IW: Only players capable of hosting will be host.

Will there be a multiplayer PC demo shortly after release? The PC community is largely skeptical at best right now and with no ability to trade-in or rent, this is a real gamble for our wallets.
Vince-IW: No plans for a demo currently. We are still working on finishing the PC game right now (yes, I know... we need to get done!)

Since we can not kick people in ranked matches, how will we stop hackers who get past VAC?
Mackey-IW: Our goal is to ban hackers from the game.

Will the IWNET multiplayer system compensate for the undoubtly low ping that the host computer will have for the other players, or will the host have an advantage over the other players? Also, going back to clans...Is there a way to have more than 18 people in a server, because my clan has at least 100 members and we like to get 20-30 on our servers at the same time.

Mackey-IW: Games cap out at 9v9. The software has great latency tolerance. See above!

Are you aware of the petition to for dedicated servers and mods, have you taken this into acount?
Vince-IW: yes.

Is there a console in the PC version of the game, so we can change our field of view from the xbox's default 65 FOV to 80 also can we tweaks the weapon damage for each gun, removes perks, graphical debris, breathing sway, also thru console like we where able to before or is this all gone?
Vince-IW: We would like you to play the game the way we designed and balanced it.

Ignoring IW.net, is the PC version a direct port of the console version?
Mackey-IW: No, PC has custom stuff like mouse control, text chat in game, and graphics settings.

What kinds of pings did you get during your IWNet testing and what do you say is an acceptable ping?
Mackey-IW: I've been playing mainly with around 100ms ping and it was great.

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254 comments

11 months ago
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100 ping lol :D
11 months ago
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treyarch (cod 5)> IW (cod6) how ironic in the end.
11 months ago
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Interview said:
Is there lean in PC multiplayer.
Vince-IW: No.



LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
11 months ago
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What does lean mean plz ?
11 months ago
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most people use q and e for it in cod4. Its so you can peak around corners not showing your full body.
11 months ago
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Ok, thanks you :)
11 months ago
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Multiplay never really supported games with big prize funds without the help of an outside sponsor.. So don't expect that much of a prize fund if its CoD4.

MW2, as CoD4, was not made for competitive play, which is quite obvious when you play the game.

CoD4 was so big because it had so much extra brought in for public play, ie: perks, gun skins etc.

Wouldn't surprise me if Multiplay had both, CoD4 and MW2 at i38 just to insure they don't lose any custom from the CoD side of things.

Mackey-IW: I've been playing mainly with around 100ms ping and it was great. - LOL
11 months ago
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Perhaps COD4 wasn't inniatially designed for competition, but at least it allowed for it with ModTools and Dedicated servers lol. This is just a big fuck up.

still laughing at the ping aspect too
11 months ago
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Interview said:
Since we can not kick people in ranked matches, how will we stop hackers who get past VAC?
Mackey-IW: Our goal is to ban hackers from the game.



Ye, and bypassing VAC will be SO DAMN HARD TOO. =/
11 months ago
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I cracked up at this one, I laughed so bad.
They're talking BS the same way politicians do in elections...

The worst thing is - the poster/video eyecandy makes millions believe.
11 months ago
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ffs the only person pleased with this game is my wife
11 months ago
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How the hell would IW come up with these stupid answers? Just take the person above me, is that an answer? And the question about the leaked 360 version.... Don't know if I should laugh or cry...
11 months ago
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Is there a console in the PC version of the game, so we can change our field of view from the xbox's default 65 FOV to 80 also can we tweaks the weapon damage for each gun, removes perks, graphical debris, breathing sway, also thru console like we where able to before or is this all gone?
Vince-IW: We would like you to play the game the way we designed and balanced it.

What kinds of pings did you get during your IWNet testing and what do you say is an acceptable ping?
Mackey-IW: I've been playing mainly with around 100ms ping and it was great.


BAHAHAHAHABAHBAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
11 months ago
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now i'm even doubting to buy this game, before I read this I was like hmm I'll buy and at least have some fun pubbing for a while. But this really got to me:<
11 months ago
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omg idiots -.- FUCK U IW!


"Mackey-IW: No, PC has custom stuff like mouse control, text chat in game, and graphics settings."

lol are they joking? -__-'
11 months ago
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This reminds me of why we have prisons.
11 months ago
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worst bait ever leul
11 months ago
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Absolultely hilarious.

I have no interest in this game now.
11 months ago
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Sick always wanted to play play an xbox game on PC. /sarcasm. good job IW youve killed the cod scene
11 months ago
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All I have to say is: THOSE FUCKING CUNTS

so pissed off. Cheers for ruining it for us IW.
11 months ago
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I read up to where It said they'd be no lean, laughed and stopped reading; don't think any CoD game released in the future will be any good; CoD2 / CoD4 anyone?
11 months ago
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Is there lean in PC multiplayer.
Vince-IW: No.

HAHAHAHA
11 months ago
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geld maakt meer kapot dan ons liev is :O

btw fuck these moneydogs bring communisme :D

edited 2009-11-04 15:09:14
11 months ago
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I just don't get it. The PC is stronger and has more opportunities than the xbox. So why not get the best out of each platform, instead of letting the better one down to the lower level?
11 months ago
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lol these guys really have no clue do they
11 months ago
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i think you'll find, they are actually quite smart and know how to reel in the millions of dollar profit
11 months ago
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Thanks captain fucking obvious but I'm obviously talking from our perspective
11 months ago
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lol :D
chill guys, same side
11 months ago
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What are the current steps being taken in regard to active blocking measures that some major ISPs have taken regarding Peer 2 Peer connections, such as what Comcast does?
Mackey-IW: Only players capable of hosting will be host.


thought IW-net was supposed to make it so people who are somehow mentally incapable of understanding dedicated servers were now able to... but guess its gonna be a fail for anyone on some ISP's.


gary good game.
11 months ago
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This is so f retarded.
Was actually looking forward to the game before this iview.

What I don't get is that the PC version will probs make about 10% of the sales compared to the consoles...so why put in extra time and effort making it more like the console ones and not how we've had it upto now?
11 months ago
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Lmfao. Console game.

No-one buy it...
11 months ago
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fucking hell, this gotta be either a bait or a 9 year old answering the questions?
11 months ago
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What kinds of pings did you get during your IWNet testing and what do you say is an acceptable ping?
Mackey-IW: I've been playing mainly with around 100ms ping and it was great.

Is there lean in PC multiplayer.
Vince-IW: No.

In addition, the chat revealed that there will be no record option (for now) in MW2

LMFAO :D

edited 2009-11-04 15:14:47
11 months ago
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AHHAHAHAHAH

k np it will be THE WORST GAME EVER !!!
11 months ago
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omg ololo
11 months ago
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What the fuck have i just read LOL

Holy fucking shit this game is a monstrous disgrace, get it out of my site.
11 months ago
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ONE BIG FAIL
11 months ago
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So bad;<... IW made this game 4 console players,btw I thought that theres now way to make any cod worst than codwaw.
11 months ago
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To reload press the Blue X


The pc version cant be played without the shitBOX 360 controller


edited 2009-11-04 15:28:00
11 months ago
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rofl
11 months ago
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Even though this is pretty shit news (and some very bad technical choices) they are in the business of making money, and upsetting 10% of the multiplayer market to please the other 90% (who won't even notice the changes or omissions) is an easy decision to make. Multiplayer isn't all about eSports, its a ridiculously small market share.

It is a shame but gamers will easily just move onto another game, even if they shouldn't be forced into it.

Infinity Ward certainly loses some brownie points in my book.
11 months ago
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no lean? and mainly 100 ms, hah, what a fail this game will be.
they're doing it this way so 8 year olds which have never played games, can start with cod6 instead of cs, since the earlier cods seems to be "too complicated" for so many.
11 months ago
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but this game was meant to be played by a more mature audience(18+?)
11 months ago
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Starting to miss cod1... hehe
11 months ago
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ROFL, I can't believe what I've just read.
11 months ago
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They're so retarded omfg -.-

In france ( and i think in other country ) the people who play on console had made a mod called xfire, this mode is the promod, but just for the perks and guns.

Everyone wants competition in a game,and beacuse they take away that, MW2 will fail hardly.
11 months ago
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The game developers are totally retarded people....
And some of those answers made me rofl
11 months ago
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Interview said:
Since we can not kick people in ranked matches, how will we stop hackers who get past VAC?
Mackey-IW: Our goal is to ban hackers from the game.


Ok, and they added VAC instead of PB wich was bad but less bad than VAC

ROFLMAO
11 months ago
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why can't they just make a good game
treyarch sucked with cod5 but when i read this, i think iw also knows how to kill a game befor its launched
11 months ago
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Oh my god, is there any point left of believing that the game will be playable :/
11 months ago
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OMG, why put text chat in. The only good thing about console, no more stupid binds from 15 years old.
11 months ago
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what are you on about. instead you come across 10 year old kids. being raised by a pack of monkeys.
11 months ago
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It's something from the TF2 community. The only thing we see in QL and CoD4 is color text binds.
11 months ago
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No console= no binds = no 15 year old spamming.....
11 months ago
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Is there a console in the PC version of the game, so we can change our field of view from the xbox's default 65 FOV to 80 also can we tweaks the weapon damage for each gun, removes perks, graphical debris, breathing sway, also thru console like we where able to before or is this all gone?

Vince-IW
We would like you to play the game the way we designed and balanced it.


HAHAHAHHA

edited 2009-11-04 14:35:12
11 months ago
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Just like they 'balanced' CoD4 :<
11 months ago
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Since we can not kick people in ranked matches, how will we stop hackers who get past VAC?
Mackey-IW: Our goal is to ban hackers from the game.


A bit l8 now aint it?

"I've been playing mainly with around 100ms ping and it was great (Mackey-IW)"

K lets give it up this game is gonna be an failure....
11 months ago
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these people are probably so lame at actually playing the game, how would they ever have a clue how to make it for the mp community. in addition, its all about the profit in the end anyway.. and thats what makes every next cod worse than the previous, sadly.
11 months ago
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IW= Fu,cking retards.

Mackey-IW: I've been playing mainly with around 100ms ping and it was great.

LMFAO
11 months ago
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IRL anyone ??
11 months ago
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f to the ail.
11 months ago
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brb killing self
11 months ago
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This is the beginning of the EPIC failzor from IW.. seriously

11 months ago
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its not fail.. just a different strategy
they dont give a shit about competitive community if u havent noticed yet
11 months ago
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=(
11 months ago
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Lol well said knaller


edited 2009-11-04 16:31:02
11 months ago
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why should they? we buy maybe 5% of all games sold, okay maybe 10 cuz of all the polish who buy the game 10 times, but still, console makes the rest of the money, would do the same if i was IW, all about the moneys.

cod6 is gonna fail anyway so lets wait for BF BC2
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