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MW2 developer chat reveals more bad news

Posted by Camiel jetset R. on 2009-11-04 12:37:07
Yesterday's developer chat hosted by BestBuy has revealed more bad news regarding the PC version of Modern Warfare 2, which will hit the stores in under a week from now. After Infinity Ward's new multiplayer model and their decision not to incorporate dedicated servers lead to a massive discussion across the various community forums, the results of yesterday's chat session will no doubt put more fuel on the fire.

In a community chat session with Mackey McCandlish, Ryan Lastimosa and Vince Zampella of Infinity Ward it has become apparant that there will be no console in Modern Warfare 2, stating "we would like you to play the game the way we designed and balanced it" when asked about the possibility to change the fov, remove perks and graphical debris and tweak the weapons for further balance.

In addition, the chat revealed that there will be no record option (for now) in MW2, nor the option to kick players out of ranked matches. Furthermore leaning will not be possible and no decisions have been made regarding mod tools, although the developers have indicated they are currently focussing on launching the game, as they are currently still working on finishing the game. This also means there are no plans for releasing a demo.

About the dedicated servers issue the developers have stated "nothing is ever off the table" and that they've seen the massive petition online. Whether they are aware of the ping problems IW.net will most likely cause is yet to be seen. The answer to a question regarding their ping during IW.net testing, "I've been playing mainly with around 100ms ping and it was great (Mackey-IW)", does not sound too promising.

Some of the more interesting questions can be found below. The full transcript with pc related questions can be found (HERE).

Is there lean in PC multiplayer.
Vince-IW: No.

You said IWnet was created to help stop piracy, what do you say about the Xbox 360 version leaked and shared on torrent sites?
Vince-IW: IWnet was designed to make the MP experience on PC easier and more balanced.

Will IW ever consider developing games on the PC to support dedicated servers, be it MW2 patches or future endeavors? Just curious if dedicated servers are on the radar anymore.
Mackey-IW: Our goal is to provide the best experience for our users, so nothing is ever "off the table". We are always evaluating our options.

Hello, are you considering ever patching in mod tools for the pc to make custom maps and such?
Mackey-IW: Right now we're focused on launching our game.
(LATER ON) Vince-IW: We haven't made any decisions regarding this yet.

Has IWnet been tested in European settings? My clan plays european leagues and we got ppl from Eastern europe, UK and Sweden meeting in the same match. How is this going to play out considering siginificant differences in Bandwith and connection qualities between players. Will host player always have the ping advantage. Can a match be hosted by 'third' person, not taking part in the match?
Mackey-IW: Players do not control who hosts.

Please give me a direct answer. On the PC version. Are all games hosted by players, and is there a 5 second delay when host migration is in effect?
Vince-IW: yes.

What are the current steps being taken in regard to active blocking measures that some major ISPs have taken regarding Peer 2 Peer connections, such as what Comcast does?
Mackey-IW: Only players capable of hosting will be host.

Will there be a multiplayer PC demo shortly after release? The PC community is largely skeptical at best right now and with no ability to trade-in or rent, this is a real gamble for our wallets.
Vince-IW: No plans for a demo currently. We are still working on finishing the PC game right now (yes, I know... we need to get done!)

Since we can not kick people in ranked matches, how will we stop hackers who get past VAC?
Mackey-IW: Our goal is to ban hackers from the game.

Will the IWNET multiplayer system compensate for the undoubtly low ping that the host computer will have for the other players, or will the host have an advantage over the other players? Also, going back to clans...Is there a way to have more than 18 people in a server, because my clan has at least 100 members and we like to get 20-30 on our servers at the same time.

Mackey-IW: Games cap out at 9v9. The software has great latency tolerance. See above!

Are you aware of the petition to for dedicated servers and mods, have you taken this into acount?
Vince-IW: yes.

Is there a console in the PC version of the game, so we can change our field of view from the xbox's default 65 FOV to 80 also can we tweaks the weapon damage for each gun, removes perks, graphical debris, breathing sway, also thru console like we where able to before or is this all gone?
Vince-IW: We would like you to play the game the way we designed and balanced it.

Ignoring IW.net, is the PC version a direct port of the console version?
Mackey-IW: No, PC has custom stuff like mouse control, text chat in game, and graphics settings.

What kinds of pings did you get during your IWNet testing and what do you say is an acceptable ping?
Mackey-IW: I've been playing mainly with around 100ms ping and it was great.

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5 months ago
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fuck.. just don't buy it
5 months ago
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who are these brainless fucks... completely clueless!
5 months ago
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HA!oh dear
5 months ago
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jesus
5 months ago
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There like the most retarded fat stupid shit americans ive eever seen .. fuck off tbh
5 months ago
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whahahahaha
5 months ago
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fun pffff
5 months ago
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there are actually big rumours that i-series is going to accomodate this game

I really fucking hope not 'cause I'll kill myself if I actually have to buy it.
5 months ago
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im about 80% sure i38 is going to be MW2, sources
5 months ago
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regardless of the money, pretty pointless wasting a weekend at an iseries to play a shit game
5 months ago
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ye one of your little buddies told us

fuckin shit innit
5 months ago
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rageworthy
5 months ago
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quite sad
5 months ago
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100ms YEAH!!!!
5 months ago
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I hope these idiots are held accountable for their complete ignorance when it comes to online PC gaming.
5 months ago
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shizzlemahnizzle
5 months ago
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This is just terrible!
5 months ago
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Mackey-IW: I've been playing mainly with around 100ms ping and it was great.


The worst thing i ever heard in my life

edited 2009-11-04 12:54:36
5 months ago
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=[
5 months ago
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any plans developing our 'own' call of duty version like cod competetive :D?
5 months ago
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had this idea since cod5 but it would be fucking hard to realize it :D
5 months ago
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LMFAO L@TERZ
5 months ago
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lmfao
5 months ago
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Simply more reasons not to buy the game.
5 months ago
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Oh dear! -_-
5 months ago
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hahahaha good shit
5 months ago
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lmao
5 months ago
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so what happens if you get a game, the players are shit or hacking (people will bypass it for sure) you just have to ask them nicely to leave? lmfao i hope no1 buys it just to see what its like so they get a drop in sales
5 months ago
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totally gay..
Bring more cod4 lans instead

edited 2009-11-04 13:25:33
5 months ago
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they're so naive, all-in-all they make the decision to not buy the game pretty easy for us

edited 2009-11-04 13:32:08
5 months ago
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I quote
Tek9 said:
buhbuh don't buy cod5, let's wait for cod6 its gonna be a sick game because infinity ward is making it!!11!!1!1!11

5 months ago
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It would be a sick game if IW didnt made these fcking shit decisions.
5 months ago
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Don't forget IW is not making it.
It's a different company now, from the ones that released cod1 or say cod2. Most of staff/management have changed over the years.

What we have now, is a bunch of green 25 year old geeks, who have no idea what to do, but love the fame of the game.
5 months ago
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just make the maps that are in mw2 to cod4, and all our problems is solved ?
5 months ago
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hyeeaa and put some jeeps for go to the bomb spots 400 km far from you

could be nice
5 months ago
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HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAH

this is hilarious :D:D
5 months ago
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Can this game Fail harder? next up all the bad things get blockt and (...) out lolz
5 months ago
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Thats just the biggest bullshit i heard in my little life so far :/

Why not remove aiming and just put some cs maps in it ... oh wait

gogo cod4
5 months ago
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lol, they removed aiming for CoD4.
5 months ago
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Nice answers! Yes..ehm..no...ehm maybe...ehm our goal is... IDIOTS!
5 months ago
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i decidedl to buy MW2 for only Single player.
and disapointed at MW2 , IW HAS NICE BRAIN.
5 months ago
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"IW HAS NICE BRAIN. "

do u mean the demand supply dynamics
increasing game price and targetting casual players coz they can pay more for something less valuable
ultimately to gain more or same profit with less effort.

frankly speaking
game aint worth $60 just for SP
dunno how many yen
:P


are other ppl from team gear also buying the game??



5 months ago
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download then.
5 months ago
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rofl, maybe cod5 wasnt to bad after all? XD
5 months ago
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im gonne download it and than trow it in the trashbin just to feel good what a shitfaces

cant we just crack the game and make oar own version?
5 months ago
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I really fucking hope i38 will not be MW2
5 months ago
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Sounds worse than COD4 and thats saying something.
5 months ago
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5 months ago
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oh man, can't wait to rock out on my xbox360 :D

Cos PC version will be a worthless piece of shit...
5 months ago
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HEY GUYS, ITS NOT THE SAME AS THE CONSOLE VERSION, YOU CAN CHANGE THE GRAPHICS IN OPTIONS!!!
ROFL
5 months ago
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hahah :D
5 months ago
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go tell odee to sort multiplay out and get money for cod4 tourny plx
5 months ago
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Don't forget the ability to chat ingame man, that's quite the difficult thing to implement.
5 months ago
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wow thought they might listen.. it's had the opposite effect :|
5 months ago
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yh fking clueless cunts have to get the shit out of their ears
5 months ago
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LOL
5 months ago
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clueless

...

Laughing my ass of
5 months ago
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lmfao fail
5 months ago
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Is there lean in PC multiplayer.
Vince-IW: No.


then i stopped reading
5 months ago
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me too lol'd
now u cant do ur leanshots :D




(and im not ur fanboy <3)

edited 2009-11-04 14:29:15
5 months ago
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the fuck ?!
5 months ago
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They are trying to have the same succes as CsS/1.6 the game is pretty much alive afther 5-6years now? Steam .. No leaning sounds like it imo. Anyways they are clueless and have no idea howto play CoD competitive. CoD4 was the most sold game in the year (on pc)?? yet they change so much ingame now its dogshite.
5 months ago
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hmm .. I might be good at this game
5 months ago
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lol this will be the first cod game that will have no lean, oh wait this isn't even a cod game anymore if you throw stuff out like this.... sjeez iw they don't have a clue about the competitve side of the game...
5 months ago
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HAHAHAHHA
5 months ago
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plzzz dont buy this buy for SP as well
it will make them feel that they were successful in their approach(IW.net,no lean,100ms ftw!!)
and
bobby psykotic will increase the price from $60 to $80

these devs
what to say
they seem to be completely clueless
:(

edited 2009-11-04 14:49:35
5 months ago
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u mean completely fuckin morons
5 months ago
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Mackey-IW: I've been playing mainly with around 100ms ping and it was great.

just made my day...
5 months ago
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we all wanted a game that would last longer than 2 years,well now we got it.
only problem is that it has limited maps and weapons
5 months ago
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LMFAO, what a heap of shit!

If i38 is mw2, what a disaster

edited 2009-11-04 14:45:30
5 months ago
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fucking better had not be.

not buying that wank game and then playing it for a full weekend...
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