Windows 7 accel problem

Posted by Netherlands FrosteR on 2011-07-09 19:45:18
Randomly while ingame I can feel my mouse go faster for like 0.5sec (happens every few minutes), its extremely annoying..

- I have installed MarkC mousefix and it works fine.
- I have also tried without any mousefix, the problem is still there
- I dont have any mouse drivers installed, I tried with Logitech drivers but the problem was still there so I uninstalled it again
- The problem happens with both my MX518 (at 500hz) and G400 (at 1000hz), I also noticed this same problem at SAGE LAN where the PC's also had Windows 7
- I used to have MX518 (at 500hz) on XP 32bit and I didnt have the problem there.
- I had 1800dpi at MX518 and 800dpi at G400, the problem was there on both.

I read somewhere that this is a common problem on Windows 7, but does anyone experience this too or know a fix? Its extremely annoying

Its kinda hard to explain the problem but it just feels like your sensitivity is double as fast as normal for like 0.5sec


edited 2011-09-21 20:16:21
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12 months ago
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make sure this is not selected:



dont think this will help because you say its only for 0.5sec, gl anyway

edited 2011-07-09 19:54:26
12 months ago
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Its not selected and I have mousefix installed
12 months ago
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have u tried uninstalling the mousefix and reinstalling it?
12 months ago
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Yes I tried that
12 months ago
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reformat pc
12 months ago
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Doubt this will fix it because I had the same problem at other PC's with Windows 7 on it.
12 months ago
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but its kinda weird that u got it with 2 different mouses

gl solving it
12 months ago
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does it randomly go to like 500+ hz for like 1 second? i have that with ma mx518
12 months ago
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he tried it with 2 mouses :P
12 months ago
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forums.logitech.com/t5/G-series-Gaming-Mice/Problem-with-Logitech-G400-Mouse/td-p/642812

I found this, but I also have the same problem with my old MX518, ''Mike09702''s post is exactly what I have as well but he hasnt found a fix either
12 months ago
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Have you tried updating your motherboard chipset drivers. They could be outdated and conflicting with the windows 7
12 months ago
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I have the P67A-UD3P-B3 but i had the same problem on other PC's.. so I think its something with the W7 software itself..
12 months ago
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ga even in apparaatbeheer (computerbeheer) en delete daar de driver van je muis reboot & solved dacht ik
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go to computermanagement (device controll) delete the mouse driver there , should solve it i tought

edited 2011-07-09 20:04:29
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Maybe try using another type of mouse from another manufacturer as it is possibly a problem with Logitech mice only and afaik the g400 is basicly just an upgraded mx518 so could be the same bug.
12 months ago
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I only have G5 MX518 and G400 here atm.. :P
12 months ago
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Which basicly are the same mice :D
12 months ago
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this
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12 months ago
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use setpoint!
12 months ago
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i'd pay millions for mx518 with G5 scrollwheel
12 months ago
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Probably fps lag .
12 months ago
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my FPS stays the same when this happens, I already checked that :p
12 months ago
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Never had that problem. Played with setpoint for months and with mousefix, now I play without the drivers and with mouse fix.
12 months ago
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I've always thought windows 7 hasn't had any mouse accel except for when you have pointer precision 'on'
12 months ago
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There is a mousefix for windows 7 as it's generally known that the normal/traditional ones didn't work for w7 even when you untick the pointer precision.


Or just learn to play with accel, gg.
12 months ago
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I know, read the first post.. its MarkC mousefix that ur talking about :p
12 months ago
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Can't be bothered reading everything, not even the OP. Just saw the title so I entered this thread like a beast.
12 months ago
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Something similar happens to me. I use the Mx518, too.

Sometimes (very, very rarely) when I open cod4 my sensitivity is higher than usual. I need to close and re-open cod4 for it to go back to normal.
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I have the same problem. I have had it with two computers. Razer DeathAdder, MX518, Zowie EC1, 3.0 and so on.. With and witout drivers, mousefixes and so on..

12 months ago
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I had exactly the same problem with Zowie EC1, but it fixed by taking mouse precision off and installing MarkC. Oddly DeathAdder, Kone and Kone [+] didn't have any accel without mousefix and even with mouse precision on. (didn't even know it should be turned off until i started figuring out what caused that strange accel for EC1.)
12 months ago
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Have the exact same problem, it has nothing to do with your mouse afaik seeing as I have this problem with my mx518 as well as with my EC1. Only have it on w7 and haven't found a solution for it yet :<
12 months ago
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tbh i've used windows 7 since beta never had any sort of mouse issue so still weird u got it, maybe has to do with other software installed i duno :(
12 months ago
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I noticed this as well since switching to Windows 7, I gave up in the end. /quit
12 months ago
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got the same problem with ec2 and DA
12 months ago
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i have the same problem, with my DA. only on cod2 though for some reason
12 months ago
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I think it has something to to with changing the polling rate to 500/1000HZ.
12 months ago
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I had exact the same problem , really annoyed me ..
but then i reinstalled OC and problem solved *:D*
Win7 32. dont know the real cause too .
12 months ago
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Could everybody with exactly this problem write down the following stuff:


OS: Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit
Motherboard: Asus
CPU: Intel
Ingame monitor HZ: 120
Mouse HZ: 500
Mouse DPI: 450

And one last thing, did you all follow the guide from ngohq.com when you changed the pollingrate?
www.ngohq.com/news/15043-how-to-increase-usb-sample-rate-in-windows-vista-7-a.html

I think that guide is the cause of our problems.. If somebody could format the computer and then DONT install that 500HZ-fix and test if the accel is random or not. And if not, then install it and try again. :)



12 months ago
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thread jack for a quick question

whats the formula you use to calculate your new sensitivity with a new dpi compared to your old dpi and sens?

I'm going from 900dpi to 800dpi and wondering how the formula would work and so on..

thanks in advance guys!

edited 2011-07-10 15:28:17
12 months ago
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0.7 sens on 900 dpi

0.7 * 900 / 800 = 0.7875
12 months ago
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Have you managed to fix this yet? I got it on my old PC, didn't have it on my new one until yesterday, so perhaps it's an update or something? :s Proper annoying though.
12 months ago
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0 sens on 800 dpi rofl xD
12 months ago
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csmz said:
Have you managed to fix this yet? I got it on my old PC, didn't have it on my new one until yesterday, so perhaps it's an update or something? :s Proper annoying though.



What did you change the last few days? Witch updates or programs did you install? Did you change to 500HZ? :P
12 months ago
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Changed to 1000hz in the razer drivers on the first day I installed everything, other than the usual Windows updates nothings been installed since.
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If you are using Windows 7 or Vista, you will have these random accelerations occur. The only way to reduce it that I have found is to lower the polling rate to 125hz. It has nothing to do with hardware, it is just the way Windows deals with filtering mouse movement.

If you have access to TF2 or CS:S, try using RAW INPUT and report back your results. I am an avid CS 1.6 player and currently there is no fix to what you are describing. To save you some time and effort, I have a compiled a list of workarounds that I have already tried unsuccessfully.

For others to understand the problem, it is important to note that it is completely random and for some very hard to notice. However, on my system personally it is almost like my DPI has doubled for a split second. VERY annoying.

Hope this helps you understand things a little better.

PREPARE FOR WALL OF TEXT

Inconsistent Mouse Speed Windows 7

System Specs: MSI-P55-GD65, Intel i5 750, 4GB DDR3 OCZ RAM, BFG 260 GTX, Sound Blaster X-FI Titanium Fatality, 2x Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB fakeraid 0 on Intel ICH10R, Corsair 650w PSU, Windows 7 64-bit Home with all windows updates.


I have a problem with mouse speed changing randomly while playing any HL1 or Source based game. I haven't tested in other games enough to be sure its happening there.
Imagine having 2 identical systems next to each other, both with acceleration disabled, and both mice moving at a constant speed across the mouse pad. The good machine's sensitivity remains at a constant speed and the bad machine's seems to jump ahead about 30-60 degrees for about a half a second and then smooth back out to normal.

To save some time in help with troubleshooting, here is what I have already attempted as possible fixes. The only fix I am positive about is that this issue DOES NOT OCCUR in Windows XP 32-bit.

-Old video/sound drivers
-Newest video/sound/chipset/network driver
-Fresh install
-Replacing my ATI 4850 with this 260 GTX
-New HDD's, running IDE, AHCI, and RAID 0 (I've tested them all)
-RAM timings (RAM has passed Memtest 4.0+) I've already tried replacing RAM as well
-All graphics options in Nvidia and Catalyst Control Panels didn't fix issue (Fresh installs each time I put a different video card in)
-Vsync is always off
-Disabling sound completely/using onboard sound
-MSconfig start-up turned off
-Windows 7 Anti-Malware process disabled/Windows bit defender or Microsoft Security Essentials
-Refresh rate 60/100/120hz
-Mouse polling rate 125/250/500/1000hz
-Razer Deathadder/Logitech g500/mx-518/microsoft wheel mouse optical/Steelseries Xai/Microsoft ball mouse ps2/ZOWIE EC1
-Using no mouse software drivers/using mouse drivers
-Compatibility mode for all available O/S's including running as admin and other check boxes each checked individually or together
-Heat temperatures are completely fine/air flow in case is good.
-processor has been checked and is seated properly
-MarkC Windows 7 mouse accel fix]
-noforce commands for hl1 engine

edited 2011-07-12 17:18:40
11 months ago
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bump because its still not fixed..
11 months ago
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what about a 64 bit driver if you have 64 bit?
11 months ago
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I did use the 64bit driver, but it didnt fix anything, it even made things worse cus logitech drivers are bugged
11 months ago
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Also have a problem with the mx518, but its not similar to yours..
11 months ago
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i have it with both g400 and mx518
11 months ago
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im the same with the ss xai i contacted them about it and if they dnt hav solution im going xp brah!
11 months ago
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i had the same problem and fixed it from control panel/mouse and from there i just removed mouse accel. Before that i was trying all the things u said and it wasnt working but i think from control panel u will fix it permamently
11 months ago
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it doesnt fix it
11 months ago
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No problems for me and im @ win7 64bit. Also have an mx518 @ 500 hz. also got the markc fix and everything.
Honestly although I know it's a pain I suggest to try a clean install of windows and only install what you need to run cod4 with your current setup+mouse fixes. If you still have the problem you're screwed I guess. But if not something else is causing it and it will be a matter of installing something and checking if that is causing the problem.
11 months ago
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same here with G500.so i switched to win xp gg :|
11 months ago
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I found something on Windows 7, go to Control Panel>>Ease of Access>>Ease of Access Center. Now click "Make the mouse easier to use" option, you can see a button named "Set up Mouse Keys". Click it. There you see pointer speed/Acceleration....


http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/14/unledmp.jpg/


good luck
11 months ago
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Those settings are for mouse keys. Using your numpad numbers to move the pointer if you don't have a mouse.

edited 2011-07-16 16:00:56
11 months ago
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Razer drivers remove accelation =3
11 months ago
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bump because still no fix and this bug is pissing me off so badly that im close to installing XP 32bit on my PC, actually makes it unplayable for me

edited 2011-07-21 01:38:39
11 months ago
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Froster just do dual boot use xp for cod4 or gaming and w7 for the other stuff thats what i do.
11 months ago
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didnt have it with vista 32bit and win7 32bit and don't have it currently with win7 64bit.
I use a G5 2000 dpi 1000Hz. Logitech drivers + markc mousefix builder. 6/11 winsens
11 months ago
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it might sound a silly idea, but what if u tick that shit showed in #1 post? just give it a try, i experienced sg weird.
11 months ago
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thanks for the idea but ive tried it and it didnt fix it unfortunately :(
11 months ago
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coz it woz ticked for me (and mousefix on), and when i ticked off, it kinda felt like accel is back... nvm
11 months ago
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happens 2 me too =[
11 months ago
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How is your mouse connected? Through usb or are you still on an old Ps/2 port?
If on usb perhaps try using another port. See if that fixes anything. Highly doubt it though.

What is your exact OS? (What windows7/xbit/servicepack)
I'm on a Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit and I have no problems at all with my mx518. Shouldn't be OS causing it if I have no problems with the exact same OS but who knows it's a bug in another version of windows7.

Tbh I think it's a driver issue and you're best of trying with a clean install (really clean, just install win7 and plug in mouse and see if you still have the problem).
11 months ago
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w7 home (or whichever is the cheapest, i think its ''home'') / 64 bit / every update installed
11 months ago
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windows xp betchz
11 months ago
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same problem on w7 home 32 bit ..
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