Not at all David. They have good finishes somehow. The slots were worked out by me and a Belgian, so no bias! They just generally get all their teams at least qualified, and then once they got to a good amount of slots they just keep doing "okay" to retain them.
They've had better finishes than UK for the past 2 seasons.
I think it's actually about the scene's activity, in the spanish case for example, the scene its pretty much dead and thats why we dont even get an slot.
hope this season if we the only one who sign up for belgium ( team visualize ) we can play, because previous season they gave one more slot to the netherlands because only we signed up for belgium
Hmm, we don't even have enough decent teams to fill these slots properly :D
Talking about the "Germany bias" though, I guess what also plays a role is that ESL has always been the number 1 league for German teams of all skill levels, much more than for other countries... so naturally, more German teams have been at least trying to play EMS (not saying they were very successful).
Saying it's all due to Turtle Entertainment being a German company wahwah seems a bit off when non-German staff members determine the slot distribution.
Again: not saying we deserve this many "highly ranked" slots simply based on skill/success, at least not with how the national scene currently looks like.
fair enough, l realise how the system works but l feel it's a bit unfair to many countries by going on old EMS results rather than how the scene is atm
UK has loads of good teams aswell now and deserve more slots just to mention one..
[23:21] phan enwiio: u and lee mash things up - its just if u two are struggling one day it'll need the others
This is what I wrote to skeir :)
I wasn't butthurt - I never am. Its not in my character. I'm gracious in defeat and was there as well. I spent a good 5 minutes helping Skeir with team proposal examples AFTER the match - I didn't have to do that and its hardly something anyone would do if they were mulling over a defeat.
I can state an opinion about your team, that's my opinion - I'm entitled to one. If I thought you were bad then I would have said that. It is my opinion that Lee and Skeir are the two most important players in your team. You can agree or disagree.
But don't come online spouting shit like:
[16:54] ftp stephen: whats nreos xfire
[16:58] ftp stephen: well then tell him it doesnt suit his butthurt egotistical ass talking about other players in such a bad way
[16:58] ftp stephen: fucking prick
If anyone's ego is hurt, its yours, because I rated you lower than them - that's irony at its finest. The problem here is that everyone rates them as the 'carriers' of the team - and that's clearly affected you - regardless if its true or not.
If you don't sort your attitude, and your trolling, you'll go down the ladder mate.
like glu said.. its baised on the activity of each section (country) and as germany was/is the most active one, we always had 3-4 slots + it has also to do, like messioso said, with rankings.. atleast it was like that in the past years dunno about now tho.
They've had better finishes than UK for the past 2 seasons.
You should realize that in very Season one german Team was/is under the top4, thats why.
edited 2012-02-08 16:16:20
france and italy dont have any teams in full playoff, each get 1 slot
sweden and spain get to last 8 (the same as uk) yet they dont even get a slot
germany has 1 team in last 4, they get 2 slots
seem fair much
fair enough though
edited 2012-02-08 16:24:06
edit : and at least i got balls to post shit using my real username, and i actually go lan ....
edited 2012-02-08 16:38:31
If you want to be a fanboy, at least spell his name right :D
esl is not vita nova were admins can do what they want
edited 2012-02-08 19:13:02
oh well, no one takes u serious anymore anyway ;D
1 at each point.
Talking about the "Germany bias" though, I guess what also plays a role is that ESL has always been the number 1 league for German teams of all skill levels, much more than for other countries... so naturally, more German teams have been at least trying to play EMS (not saying they were very successful).
Saying it's all due to Turtle Entertainment being a German company wahwah seems a bit off when non-German staff members determine the slot distribution.
Again: not saying we deserve this many "highly ranked" slots simply based on skill/success, at least not with how the national scene currently looks like.
fnatic got 3 swedes now, and there's also a new swedish lineup with tidde, visseh, johanz, sukram, faeke
UK has loads of good teams aswell now and deserve more slots just to mention one..
Dig
Volatile
FTP
FM
imagine oldies could do well depending on how lucky they get with map picks versus teams and stuff
but i cant think of any other nation with more top teams in it so i dont understand why UK doesnt have more slots tbh
edited 2012-02-13 15:42:47
This is what I wrote to skeir :)
I wasn't butthurt - I never am. Its not in my character. I'm gracious in defeat and was there as well. I spent a good 5 minutes helping Skeir with team proposal examples AFTER the match - I didn't have to do that and its hardly something anyone would do if they were mulling over a defeat.
I can state an opinion about your team, that's my opinion - I'm entitled to one. If I thought you were bad then I would have said that. It is my opinion that Lee and Skeir are the two most important players in your team. You can agree or disagree.
But don't come online spouting shit like:
[16:54] ftp stephen: whats nreos xfire
[16:58] ftp stephen: well then tell him it doesnt suit his butthurt egotistical ass talking about other players in such a bad way
[16:58] ftp stephen: fucking prick
If anyone's ego is hurt, its yours, because I rated you lower than them - that's irony at its finest. The problem here is that everyone rates them as the 'carriers' of the team - and that's clearly affected you - regardless if its true or not.
If you don't sort your attitude, and your trolling, you'll go down the ladder mate.
edited 2012-02-09 23:45:13
edited 2012-02-13 15:42:29