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GUI?

Posted by United Kingdom thecarlisle on 2009-05-07 13:06:33
What do people mean by it?

My interpretation is that its a interface that you must use for various competitions, slightly changes the GUI and forces commands.

WHat do people want if I was to do it for cod4?

I already see some issues. If there are 'secret' commands which I'm quite positive there aren't. I don't know them. So how am I going to tell the game to ignore them if I don't know what they are.

What I would do is use a standard 'competative' config. Force the bulk of the commands. Leave Resoloution, Refesh Rate, AA and AF. Because obviously the have the biggest impact on FPS and differ from PC to PC.

So few questions, If I was to do it. What do you want from it? The fact it to be optional goes without saying. Pehaps hotswappable, in a IWD so there isn't a new MOD.ff all the time and the hassle that comes with it. Because if this was to happen, people are going to have to live with the fact there will be constant updates. Another question, what should be left optional? Ill leave all the HUD setting tweakable, so people can still have their pretty scoreboard, and leave the filmtweaks. But I am going to look into filmtweaks, I'm getting the impression there is somthing I don't know with them. People are defending them a bit more vigarously than if they just brighten up the game.
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36 months ago
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NO DISCUSSION PLEASE. ANOTHER TOPIC FOR THAT.

I want opinion on it, and how to go about it.

Thanks.
36 months ago
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the_carlisle said:
and how to go about it.



Speak to Paradox
36 months ago
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ehm

edited 2009-05-07 13:32:07
36 months ago
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force as many commands as possible, only changeable settings should be the commands from ingame options, sensitivity, fov, fovscale, volume, gamma and packetdup.
36 months ago
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Imo dont force too much as there are no ''secret uber sick commands'' in the game as far as Im concerned (and im quite a geek about commands so yea), a good idea would be to force the compassplayerheight 180 thing to the default value and give options like u did with packetdup and stuff and add stuff like filmtweaks and whatever else usefull commands
36 months ago
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... console should not even be allowed for use in LAN. Neither should your own config, fuck all "filmtweaks", whatever they are.
36 months ago
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Take a look at the filmtweak commands first before saying they should be forced off, they dont do any harm
36 months ago
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zYMMAk said:
... console should not even be allowed for use in LAN. Neither should your own config, fuck all "filmtweaks", whatever they are.



Just no.
36 months ago
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don't touch filmtweaks, or at least allow them to EVERYONE, they don't have an impact on how you play, they will not improve your aim or your brain.
They only make the game look nicer! Don't listen to ''colors whiners'', they don't give any advantage.
36 months ago
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allow whatever the fuck you want online, but make LAN GUI that only allows you to use ingame options, and change the shit I said above. Point of LAN is having everybody playing with the same settings and shit. Drastic measures like this are needed, trust me in CS 1.6 people didnt like it at first, especially the people who had time and interest to tweak their config and visibility to max.
36 months ago
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I'm sure you all know that it is totally pointless to create a something which forces commands ... you can just let PB kick for cvars ...

The only interessting and good thing is to create a menu (GUI of however you call it) which allows the not knowledged peeps to change. Don't force any other commands ... except of the compass thing.

Seriously I can see the end of the mod if you force all settings ...
36 months ago
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force film tweaks so they become default
36 months ago
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1.6 and css gui block the console to be opened onlan, so make it the same for cod4; that way you are forced to change the range of possible settings via the gui menu and no "secret hidden command" can be used.

Regarding keyboard and mouse macros there's nothing you can do about, how can you check if some1 is abusing cmds that way? Every match the admins should check every pcs to see if there's something wrong and we all know that's not gonna happens...
36 months ago
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MAIN said:
Seriously I can see the end of the mod if you force all settings ...



How can that mean the end of the mod when the gui will be used on lans only?
36 months ago
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I'd like to include, that there aren't any complete list of dvars or commands, so forcing the complete list might be difficult (even our simple dumped dvarlist). What one really can do, is to disable console on lanmodes, at least it was really simple in cod2. It needs some thinking and the idea isn't bad.
36 months ago
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How would you record demo without console? And there is a command i use, and dont give me any advantage, but i need it for my mouse, with console blocked or not allowing cfg how the fuck would i change it to value i need?

Just use fucking PB with ESL GV on.
36 months ago
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learn to play with the default settings you moron, cl_mouseaccel might be one more command used for the gui and in_mouse
36 months ago
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reaktiv said:
How would you record demo without console? And there is a command i use, and dont give me any advantage, but i need it for my mouse, with console blocked or not allowing cfg how the fuck would i change it to value i need?

Just use fucking PB with ESL GV on.


cl_bypassmouseinput?
36 months ago
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ekin said:
don't touch filmtweaks, or at least allow them to EVERYONE, they don't have an impact on how you play, they will not improve your aim or your brain.
They only make the game look nicer! Don't listen to ''colors whiners'', they don't give any advantage.


Surely having better visibility is an advantage.
36 months ago
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zYMMAk said:
learn to play with the default settings you moron, cl_mouseaccel might be one more command used for the gui and in_mouse



Learn to speak you fucking deepshit. I wasnt even talking about mouseaccel cioto.

Im about cg_weaponcycledelay, and its the only command i dont have default, so shut up if you know shit, fucking 4thie.

edited 2009-05-07 14:46:23
36 months ago
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I dont know what cg_weaponcycledelay does but just suggest to put that in the GUI aswell then reaktiv
36 months ago
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reaktiv said:
zYMMAk said:
learn to play with the default settings you moron, cl_mouseaccel might be one more command used for the gui and in_mouse



Learn to speak you fucking deepshit. I wasnt even talking about mouseaccel cioto.

Im about cg_weaponcycledelay, and its the only command i dont have default, so shut up if you know shit, fucking 4thie.


Just get used to using your keyboard to change weapon..
36 months ago
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reaktiv said:
How would you record demo without console? And there is a command i use, and dont give me any advantage, but i need it for my mouse, with console blocked or not allowing cfg how the fuck would i change it to value i need?

Just use fucking PB with ESL GV on.



in cs gui u have a gui menu u press like u press h then a little box shows up with record demo use rconcommands and all that its really workin good in cs mayb we can get the same in cod4 would be really better

edited 2009-05-07 14:54:37
36 months ago
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Jonny- said:
Just get used to using your keyboard to change weapon..




Just get used to play with commands you dont have idea. Please, dont post useless comments. I dont play on WSAD and i dont switch weapon on keyboard. Its like i would tell you to play and use my setting after 6 years of playing..."Just get used to play on arrows!"
36 months ago
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tArdjEZuS said:
reaktiv said:
How would you record demo without console? And there is a command i use, and dont give me any advantage, but i need it for my mouse, with console blocked or not allowing cfg how the fuck would i change it to value i need?

Just use fucking PB with ESL GV on.



in cs gui u have a gui menu u press like u press h then a little box shows up with record demo use rconcommands and all that its really workin good in cs mayb we can get the same in cod4 would be really better


Definitely think this should be implemented, Paradox obviously had a clear unfair advantage over the others due to his knowledge of configs.
36 months ago
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fuck you reaktiv, I couldnt care less which commands you are on about, go and suggest them to carlisle and stop talking to me, still not even sure who the fuck you are. Fuck me cod forums are depressing.
36 months ago
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Davy said:
I dont know what cg_weaponcycledelay does but just suggest to put that in the GUI aswell then reaktiv




This command add you a delay between weapon switch. When the value is low (0-100/150) your weapon doesnt switch immediately to the second one after you press switch button/scroll. When its set to, lets say 200-500 weapon switch immediately after first press. My scroll is sensitive, thats why im using the lower value, so it doesnt switch to 2nd weapon when i dont want it.
36 months ago
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Like i would give a shit about you and your commands opinion kammyz.

edited 2009-05-07 15:07:28
36 months ago
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reaktiv said:
Jonny- said:
Just get used to using your keyboard to change weapon..




Just get used to play with commands you dont have idea. Please, dont post useless comments. I dont play on WSAD and i dont switch weapon on keyboard. Its like i would tell you to play and use my setting after 6 years of playing..."Just get used to play on arrows!"


I know you don't change your weapon on the keyboard, why the fuck would you use cl_weaponcycledelay on a keyboard.

I also don't use WASDA too, I used to use my scroll button to change weapons and I played with that for about 6-7 years too. Only took me a day to get used to changing weapons with the keyboard and I now find it more efficient.

Just a suggestion anyway my little padawan.
36 months ago
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Jonny- said:
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The problem is i dont have any button left to switch my weapon and simply, i dont want to switch it on keyboard. Do you think i never tried it? I did, but it just didnt work and i found that command and now its ok for me.
36 months ago
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reaktiv said:
Jonny- said:
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The problem is i dont have any button left to switch my weapon and simply, i dont want to switch it on keyboard. Do you think i never tried it? I did, but it just didnt work and i found that command and now its ok for me.


fuck you then!
36 months ago
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Fuck you too!

Btw. NO DISCUSSION PLEASE. ANOTHER TOPIC FOR THAT.

I want opinion on it, and how to go about it.


:D
36 months ago
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rofl at the rage :DD

chill, im not gunna cut anythign usful, eg weaponcycledelay. those what a config should be, thigs like that.

but anythign wiht even a slight questionmark wil be locked.

just chill, this isnt going to happen happen overnight (even if it does). alot fo work will go into it. much testing too.

chill ya beans people.
36 months ago
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hey the_carlisle

will your gui have background too

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4773/90789335oq8.jpg


like this or will u just make the commands and all ?




edited 2009-05-07 16:09:50
36 months ago
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JEG KAN GODT LIDE HESTE, FUCKING NØRDER.
36 months ago
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np, got time till OOF3 :P
36 months ago
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Think the point most people are making is there are a lot more commands with are "useful" and still dont give any advantage anyway, whereas in a game like 1.6 or css there are hardly any commands which need to be restricted.

Maybe in the promod menu where you have sensitivity etc you could just implement something like this in the menu.

Graphics
----> refresh rate
----> AA
----> resolution
Controls
----> bind keys for whatever
Options
----> name
Promod
--> ai_
----> corpse count
--> cg_
----> blood
----> brass
----> weaponcycledelay

And make the r_ page of 2 pages due to lots of commands. Just do it like that so you can only change the necessary commands, I'd happily help :)

edited 2009-05-07 16:34:17
36 months ago
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r_filmtweklighttint, and darktint should be the only ones able to be changed as well, possibly by using a slider bar in the menu. Filmtweakcontrast/deasturation etc should be forced to 1.1/1.2 and 0 accordingly.

edited 2009-05-07 16:47:27
36 months ago
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nice idea tbh, hope you wont stop in the middle of working or wont updating it when it will be out, GL car isle
36 months ago
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what about changing keys what you use on numpad?

most of them you cant even bind in the menu if you want to bind something to numpad :/

36 months ago
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double

edited 2009-05-07 16:57:13
36 months ago
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hysobe said:
what about changing keys what you use on numpad?

most of them you cant even bind in the menu if you want to bind something to numpad :/




You can? I got like 3/4 of keys binded to Numpads(lean right, reload, meel attack, crouch, prone, sprint, nade)

If you press Numpad 7 and it binds it as "Home", then just turn on "Num Lock" key and then it will bind as "KP_Home" instead of "Home".

edited 2009-05-07 17:06:27
36 months ago
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Well, if you are gonna do universal lan-GUI for call of duty, you should do it right or not do at all. I am just gonna tell now what it should include if you want to make it work:

-It has to be made that you can use it in any server, and that you are allowed to join any server without it. So it has to work allways, and that you can play without it if you want. (In LAN you can make sure that everyone is using it, but in online it should be fully optional)
-Console disabled
-Ability to take screenshots and record demos. (Bind for screenshot, demo thing I don’t know)
-Forbidden: All kind of scripts and binds, even say binds to avoid unneccessary spam.
-Forbidden: toggling anything easily (fps, maxpackets…) To avoid lag etc packet wanking

There should be as less changeable commands as possible, I would quickly suggest thease:

//Graphics
-Resolution and aspect ratio
-Refress rate
-Anti aliasing
-(FPS) [only becouse there will be massive flame if you force it to 125]


//”Game settings”
-FOV
-Sensitivity
-m_pitch/yaw
-cl_mouseaccel & cg_weaponcycledelay
-Normal keybinds at the controls + weaponmenu binds




And yes, everything else should be forced to some point, I think most of us dont care in which. Example r_picmip should be like 1, and it should be not changeable. Everyone just have to get used on that value, and this applies to all kind of settings. Like lightning. normal map, bullet impacts, smoke softing, blood etc...

Colours/filmtwek things? I don’t know about thease, but things like this should be FORCED to some value.

Now I know, a lot of people will flame becouse they want to use their own personal settings which doesnt help them at all, we will hear a lot of ”It doesnt give any advantage”. Well, the idea of gui system is to make people settings equal in all situations, to make sure that everybody is in same line, differend picmip can be advantage in some situation, And you will get used to non-shiny weapons or picmip 3. Atleast everybody has same disadvantage as you. And make sure you made your decisions fps wise better way, that there will not be problems that somebody cant run gui becouse of bad pc.




+ + if you really want to make it super:

-make online GUI for those who want to play with “offical lan settings” in online too, in this gui console should be allowed for taking guid screenshots + whatever may be needed in cb etc, rcon etc

LOL MASSIVE POST, I EVEN MADE ACCOUNT FOR THIS!! I hope I got everything on it!

- By man who knows better what is best for you.

edited 2009-05-07 17:06:41
11 months ago
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bump coz this should be enforced by VN on all lans their involved within, would get rid of all this cfg shit offline at least
11 months ago
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paaaang said:
bump coz this should be enforced by VN on all lans their involved within, would get rid of all this cfg shit offline at least



+1 =]
6 months ago
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niceeeeee
6 months ago
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caesiuM said:
paaaang said:
bump coz this should be enforced by VN on all lans their involved within, would get rid of all this cfg shit offline at least



+1 =]

6 months ago
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Ivegot 99 problems but a bump aint one

edited 2011-09-09 20:18:53
6 months ago
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azeo said:
caesiuM said:
paaaang said:
bump coz this should be enforced by VN on all lans their involved within, would get rid of all this cfg shit offline at least

+1 =]


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