ESL promotion

Posted by Croatia b1z on 2012-01-26 18:37:41
Hello dear community!

As you can see from the title, I wanted to promote ESL a bit.

As a game, CoD2 is not that popular on the ESL but I could bet that half of you didn't even try it or you don't even know anything about it.

Why to play on the ESL ?

- Because you are able to win lots of prizes (f.e. premium accounts/money prizes - depending on cup prizes).

- You are able to play clean matches. Just imagine how is it when you play this game leisurely, without any doubt you will get outhacked or anything similliar to.

Howcome?

- ESL Wire

What is it?

- ESL anti-cheat, prolly the best anti-cheat here on the scene, at least for CoD2. The amount of cheaters is minimal or there aren't any at all. All people who ever hacked there were busted within 2 weeks. The point of that anti-cheat is that it was made by people who have never had a profit from it. A lot of money is invested in ESL Wire and you can really rely on it while playing. It was made with the point to stop cheaters, not to earn money by selling bypasses all around, as "Tomislav Zub?i?" did with TZ-AC so he investigated crohacks aswell. Same with UAC, I don't believe it was the only "anti-cheat" organisation.

Actually, the my point here is to attract your attention and motivate you to move from CB to ESL.

For all those guys who will comment this like "we have nothing from this, by moving from CB to ESL", my question is : What do you get there on CB except your moment ranking and millions of cheaters who are returning all the time?

At the moment, ladders on ESL are "letsayit" empty. The whole scene there is dead except a few of us from Croatia who are the part of .cro "Best of" cups. For example, "Best of Burgundy" etc.

With this post I would like to see how much of you are interested to become a part of the ESL CoD2 scene. For beginning, we could create some .eu cups to motivate all others for this move!

All you need to do is to write your suggestions about it, do you agree with it and after all, all you need to do is to join us. Then we can start with everything I mentioned above.

Here is the esl cod2 link : www.esl.eu/eu/cod2

For more questions add me@xf : krnetony123

Please do not use this thread for your trolling or whatever similliar. Do not go offtopic please.


Kind regards,

b1z





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4 months ago
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ESL site is unlogical and unconformatable. The ranksystem is also pretty dire on ESL.

premium accounts/money prizes - depending on cup prizes).
Where money prizes? People dont care about premium accounts.
4 months ago
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And what prizes did you win on clanbase?

head, tzacv2 is almost released but crohax will release bypass for it even before tzacv2 will be out on the scene. It's sad true that today's investigators of anti-cheats always contribute to the development of bypasses and ESL is not doing it, that's why I want to move there.

Depends on site, it is complicated for everyone who is using it for the first time or for the someone who is using it once a year.

About ranking, why is it dire? It is almost same like on CB, you start from 1000 and you go on, depends on your wins/loses.

The main fact that should motivate you to move to ESL should be enjoying in clean gaming, not a money.

I don't think you guys are playing this game to earn some money, at least not on CB.
4 months ago
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what is this word?

uncomformatable
4 months ago
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What is this sentence?

Depends on site, it is complicated for everyone who is using it for the first time or for the someone who is using it once a year.
4 months ago
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Yes it is true that it is unconformatable but only because we're all used on CB that has only 5 main buttons. ESL got many, many buttons that you most likely wont use but you'll figure everything within 5 mins.

As many others I wasn't informed about ESL before I got banned on CB (because of adding RWBs) but now I like it a lot. CB haven't done anything 'corrupted' to me so don't think that only reason why I support ESL is because of my CB ban.

Even cups in games such as CoD2 that is not active on ESL, have prizes such as premium accounts and servers (depends if there is sponsor). If game was more active there could be much, much bigger prizes. In 2008. team dignitas won 1500€ on ESL ONLINE cup (just gives you information how sure the creators of ESLWIRE are). Currently there is some SC2 cup that has prizes for first 4 places (best razer 'equipment').

About eslwire, it is really nice program. You can chat with your buddies, search war (game rooms) and it is used as anticheat. It is really nice to have all these things in one program... No need for TZ-AC/UAC3, xfire and irc.

Most of you never tried versus or probably haven't heard of it. When your team is not online and you're freakin' bored and wanna play some matches that aren't some random PCWs you can play versus. On ESL almost every game has versus. You just have to pick game and size of team, also you can insert gameserver if you have and it will automaticaly find 9 more players that you will play with. You'll chose one of 2 maps that are provided.

Random map ladder - as everybody are afraid to play some other maps except toujane/dawnville/burgundy just not to lose their points, ESL is able to make ladder that will randomly choose map.

MVP (most valueable player) - this thing is introduced to latest 'best of toujane' cup. 1st, 2nd and 3rd team will chose who was by their judgement best player on cup. Best player will join 'Hall of fame'. As this thing is new, it is still not considered 100%.

ESLWIRE as a anticheat - it updates every week and as b1z already said, money was invested in this program not like everybody else who makes AC for free.

There is much, much more things
4 months ago
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this :)

Im also playing versus sometimes on cod4, really like it :)
4 months ago
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People should try out ESL and get use to it, cant be surprised if in the near future CB stops being. Only thing keeping it floating is the known name, the site is great tough but there has not been any major updates since years, many years so it feels very much out of date, not to talk about the financial difference of the two sites. Activity wise seems the CB ladders are dieing out to, only exception being COD2. If things stay like this then ESL is the future.
4 months ago
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they are talking about cod2...
4 months ago
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ESL is great, problem is its built for people with an IQ of above 100

cya!
4 months ago
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TZACv2 is almost done, it works with kernel drivers just like esl wire. ClanBase is active, its easy and the only downside is that some people try to hack but then again, if ESL was active people would focus more on bypassing ESL wire.

I don't see ESL supporting cod2 so why would you switch? CB is going to release a new mod soon that should fix a lot of problems + it actually has cups that are active (oc/ec).

CB is working on a moneycup just like ESF and we are trying to get some sponsors so we could give some servers + hardware to the winners.

What did ESL?
4 months ago
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THIS GUY SOUNDS BIASED
4 months ago
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Don't take this as a league fight or something. We just mentoined couple of things that are great about ESL.

It is nice to hear that TZACv2 is finally done but again, it is free program and as T.Z. said if he's not gonna get any profit out if it, he's gonna close it... It is true that people would be more focused on bypassing ESL wire if CoD2 was more active on ESL but if I'm right, CoD4 is more active on ESL than on CB and yet there is no bypass.

Talking about CoD2@ESL is pointless cause it has low activity.


edited 2012-01-26 20:45:52
4 months ago
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So we agree the website is hideous and that anticheat reliability comes from activity.
4 months ago
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bump
4 months ago
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esl is obviously better than clanbase, they just need new admins & the activity from clanbase :D
4 months ago
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mathiasu said:
TZACv2 is almost done, it works with kernel drivers just like esl wire. ClanBase is active, its easy and the only downside is that some people try to hack but then again, if ESL was active people would focus more on bypassing ESL wire.

I don't see ESL supporting cod2 so why would you switch? CB is going to release a new mod soon that should fix a lot of problems + it actually has cups that are active (oc/ec).

CB is working on a moneycup just like ESF and we are trying to get some sponsors so we could give some servers + hardware to the winners.

What did ESL?



dont get me wrong but there were certain ppl at cb who kept blocking new ideas brought into the system and they are still there so ur saying they changed all of a sudden? and how can we as a user know about ideas like new cups/ac etc when no ones bothering to post any news on cb? i always claimed cb aint using its big potential so wud be a chance to change something

edited 2012-01-26 23:19:28
4 months ago
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i did the rage cup and a about a month ago i contacted people to hose a pay to play cup on clanbase, the only problem is that not every sponsor likes the idea of paying to play a cup so we are looking for the best formula.

if its a good idea why would be block it?

atm there is a topic on internal forum to change some major rules and making the rules more userfriendly.

you have to understand that if we take away some rule we always have to make sure that some people take it to far.
4 months ago
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u got me wrong i wasnt aiming at u personally.they way infs appeal for certain changes of the democrew was denied spoke for itself and thats why i have my doubts that anything will ever change but be my guest and do so, appreciated anyways.
4 months ago
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imo it's not about blocking ideas, its about not being able to do it. there were 345093450934 votes to make a random map ladder and you weren't able to make it. rush mod/ladder was announced in 2010. still nothing.
4 months ago
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esl is easy to use. you have to get used to it.
4 months ago
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everybody sayin that is hard, bullshit
4 months ago
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According to this standard, no website can ever truly be difficult, which is why I reject the idea of getting used to a poor layout entirely.
4 months ago
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so u wud rather play against unclean team every day instead of trying 'hard' website? have u ever visited any other league site? cybergamer? edom?...
4 months ago
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get versus in cod2

edited 2012-01-27 12:38:35
4 months ago
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one of admins is currently doing it... should be done soon.

edited 2012-01-27 15:54:09
4 months ago
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nice bruh
4 months ago
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esl ist biggest shit ever.
4 months ago
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JiMmY-ION said:
ESL is great, problem is its built for people with an IQ of above 100

cya!

4 months ago
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lol, we know what is esl
FUCK cod2, play cod4 or mw3
4 months ago
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exzz said:
esl is obviously better than clanbase, they just need new admins & the activity from clanbase :D



Current admins are pretty active atm and I had a conversation with one of them about this, that's why I've posted this here.. will post here once again if we me some cups there so you could participiate in it, it should be an action to motivate you to join us there.. :)
4 months ago
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I've never played on ESL so I wonder, is the activity enough to find a match relativitely fast?
4 months ago
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well you have to play the right game. like lol, sc2, cs, ...
4 months ago
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I was thinking cod2 mainly since the thread is about that
4 months ago
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atm the activity about cod2 is pretty dead as I mentioned in my thread, it's the main reason why I'm posting this here, you can cr8 your team and join some cups/ladders and start from yourself, more and more guys will come for sure..

also for the system of esl wire, when you got pending matches, you're able to play with it, read more on esl page if u don't get me immidiately
4 months ago
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if any esl team needs +1 or som1 needs a mixer,pm me, xf:lolz777
4 months ago
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so u wud rather play against unclean team every day instead of trying 'hard' website? have u ever visited any other league site? cybergamer? edom?...


@z0dz0dz0dz0d

Thats bullshit. Only in the lower regions on cb are hackers 1000-1600

1800+ is like for 99 percent clean. U know why? Due the fact that the players that play in the 1000-1500 zone are dire and you can easily kill them without being obvious. When those retards get higher they face good players and u always see they make dumb decisions cause they needed the round. If they win.... (always 21-19) U ask demo then they wont upload and if they will they will get timestamped - BAN and they rwb.

So stop talking bullshit if you are not playing on the ladder.
4 months ago
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Gimme a break. That's obvsly the biggest shit I've ever heard in years. You mean 99 % of all 1800er and up are clean? This is ridicoulus, on such regions (1800-2100) are the most hacker. for sure you didnt even play but if u get enough knowledge about the higher regions and when you play there pretty often you are gna recognize that its completly bullshit bro.

cy(a)
4 months ago
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there's only 15 teams max that u can say they're clean and those are wry, turpo, ephix, pimpeki, esuba, citercici and few more.
as i already said before, don't take this as a league fiight or w/e. we just mentoined few good stuff that esl has, nothing else. did we come here and start shiting about cb? have we said anything bad about cb? no we didn't. this topic is about to tell people good stuff and introduce them to esl as many of them aint.

if i may ask, do you feed ur family by playing cb wars/cups? since u asked what prizes u can get
4 months ago
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to reply on zod

We had a lot of ladders on clanbase (cod2) and they all die out after a while, look at the regional ladders.

I remember playing the rush mod and yes its nice that you can rush but i doubt that it will get really active and about the random map ladder, yes it could be fun playing some random maps but no point opening a ladder if just 5 clans are playing it.


If we see that a lot of players want it we will open it.

I don't know what inf wanted to do but a lot has changed and we have a decent system now.
4 months ago
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Rush mod was a pretty cool and fun idea, excellently implemented. I would however not wish to see it again as it was nowhere near as competitively appealing.
4 months ago
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@matje - well, the teams which are on the top for a long time are clean ! 1800+
@head - not sure if serious, but i think th current system is just shit and nothing more.

Clanbase needs more decent cups with prices and not some random ladders, thats all!


edited 2012-01-27 19:43:28
4 months ago
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what would you change then? :p
4 months ago
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for first move, release d3do's ideas
4 months ago
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Lets go to ESL !!b1z has right.. :)
4 months ago
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go and register on esl its fucking nice league nobody can hack there
4 months ago
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ESL is so unlogical

you just type www.esl.eu if you cant find cod2 just add /eu/cod2 to the link
-> www.esl.eu/eu/cod2
also the admins can change the look of the site if the community doenst like it



4 months ago
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Lets move to ESL! :DDDDDDD
4 months ago
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Don't w8 for others to move, start from yourself, create your teams and start participiating in ladders/cups..

My question for you :

- Are you interested in 3v3/4v4/5v5 .eu cup @ esl next weekend?

It could be a part of your beginning in there.

Looking forward for your answer,

Cheers
4 months ago
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not meant to ruin ur enthusiasm but seeing esf with a prizepot of 200 euros didn make ppl leave cb,i doubt esl has even small chances to do so. the only way we can get cod2 more active/interesting is by hosting cups with a small amount of cash prizes cuz ppl are way too lazy to change leagues.
4 months ago
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thx for your ideas, we will work on it as most as possible

the main reason why I'm not playing at esf is because of couple of cheaters in there, especially current team mamut.si and few of the rest, tz-ac is pretty bad anti-cheat to motivate me to play p'n'p cups
4 months ago
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HAHAHA WIRE??? Ur versus is full of hackers and seems like that even a public hack cant be spotted by ur wire
4 months ago
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the half of those guys who are using wire at versus are not uploading their screens after the match since noone requested it, that thing versus is just for getting fun by playing mixes there.. that's the reason why

in official esl matches you need to upload your screens, otherwise you are losing the match where you didn't do it..

you got it now? ;)

edited 2012-01-28 17:39:01
4 months ago
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I have 2 awards for being in top 10 in 2 beta versuses i dunno how to explain. The fact is that in 1/2 games i played i saw obv aimless tard with wallhack. Also when i play with wire i cant find screenshots after disabling it. And none of my friends can.
4 months ago
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In case all of you don't care about the teams which are not that skilled to play a cup with the target to win. Those clan which are playing for fun between friends and some online relationships. clanbase or esl (in case i'd prefer esl if it would be more active) should concentrate on the bright scene of cod2. cod2 is not only pros and people who dont even fail once (lol). there are also a bright range of clans who want to get up and not to get insultet by any "wnb teams". thats why cod2 is gettin shit for the normal people. if esl/cb finds a way to solve that, cod2 would be so much more interesting than it is right now.

{backtotopic} yep, esl is better, even the case they were the first
kind regards
4 months ago
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I agree with you dAMIX, but the main reason why I'm personally behaving different while playing@ESL is because I know that noone will hack my ass off, and my view of the game is automatically much more different.. And why we're playing@cb we know that everyone could hack us since bypasses for tz-ac/uac are much more available, as most as the way to cheat on cb..And that's why ppl behave as they do, that's the point I guess..
4 months ago
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Splitting the community between 2 ladders might not be the best option atm.
4 months ago
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actually it is not splitting the communities, it's about moving from league to league..anyway I don't see any reason why it is not the best option "ATM".. Maybe we should do that much before :D
4 months ago
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why would you switch?

according to you ESL is so much better and they invested so much into an anti cheat but still they can't even host a decent cod2 cup.

Somebody els said he played LoL on esl for the prices, CB had a 2500euro LoL cup.

Instead of changing to ESL, maybe you should suggest some things that could improve CB.

"the grass is always greener on the other side"

4 months ago
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Head's argument paraphrased as being on a sinking ship with a hole in it and trying to SWITCH to another ship instead of plugging the leak.
4 months ago
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please lock this
4 months ago
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you know head, the main reason why I "hate" cb is because of shit things that happen in there cuz of salba and all others guys, you know what I'm talking about.. Otherwise I see this will go hard so if we stay@cb we will stay, I just tried and maybe I will keep trying later on, that's all
4 months ago
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Everybody can play what he wants and im not gonna say don't play ESL since im obv bias but CB has 10k matches a month and you want all of them to switch to an other league because you "hate it".

Check what foozar wrote and I hope you understand what we are trying to say.
4 months ago
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np mate, I respect everyone's opinions.. The only good thing from TZ-AC is that it is impossible to return while banned, that's prolly the only reason why I appreciate CB.. I know it's hard to move all those guys to ESL but after all, I don't want to move them because I "hate" CB, you got it wrong.

ps. fooZar should be an artist. :D
4 months ago
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cod2 will never die!!

edited 2012-01-28 21:58:54
4 months ago
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btw-->http://www.esl.eu/eu/cod2/sd/5on5/ladder/
only 2 teams :D
4 months ago
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I will reply one more time, ClanBase doesn't have the money to make an anticheat like ESL wire but every anticheat maker or coder i know tells me that every anticheat can be bypassed and every cheat can be detected.

esl wire works with kernel drivers, TZACv2 will also work with kernel drivers so it should be a lot harder to bypass it and they can detect hacks faster.

We will release a new update regarding anti-cheat + rules + etc

note: people spend money buying cb accounts and they buy some hardware spoofer or even buy new parts for their computer and there is little we can do about it since we can't ban on a hunch, we need to be 100% sure that we have the right guy.
4 months ago
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Ye I understand, but sometimes you ban people you don't have valid proofs for tbh. With this "you" I didn't think exactly YOU. To be more precise, there are few head admins and they are actually manipulating with everything there. It's all about a money I guess.
4 months ago
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4 months ago
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can u guys stop talking about freakin cb?
4 months ago
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Can't we have a discussion?

edited 2012-01-29 00:16:34
4 months ago
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This theard is called "ESL promotion", not "why should you like esl/cb more than cb/esl".
4 months ago
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as a matter of fact cb never asked their users for any kind of input and the second someone came up with some good ideas (even in internal forums) they were denied. a discussion has 2 parties whereas the vast majority of cb admins are deleting threads poppin up about cb being corrupted FOR A REASON. the way the "salba-case" was handled is far beyond being pathetic and therefore i highly doubt all of those things will change overnight although u seem to put a lot of effort into this head



edited 2012-01-29 16:30:42
4 months ago
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esl is good, wire also uploads your config and checks your config

i busted some guy with con_maxfps 333 yes i dont cheat he says well gg 12 pp cheating 2 year ban
4 months ago
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eslwire and whole esl is freakin awesome site/software. it is really sad that players shit about it even before they actually see how it works... auto cfg upload, chatlog, autorar - those things aint something special but yet it makes esl look more serious and 'details' (such as these) makes me love it.
4 months ago
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doesnt have anything with cod2 but here, u can see just sample of esl's prizes: www.esl.eu/eu/ems/season10/news/#/eu/ems/season10/news/183433/Announcing-the-10th-Season-of-the-ESL-
Major-Series/
4 months ago
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If esl would be active and they fix bags in wire its good to play there, but dont think that most of community will do that
4 months ago
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rumor: TZAC is closing down, their already stopped with email service and password recovery.....It seems that ESL is good home for us and ESLwire ofc




The only reason why ESL is not being played in COD2/COD4, it's in the number of cheaters that are afraid to step it :D
4 months ago
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It seems that we succeeded !

CoD2 versus is going to be released soon, thatway first step is done !

For all .eu CoD2 players -> www.esl.eu/eu/versus/forum/2663/24862/1001678/?lastvisit=

As Romel said, put +1 and show your interest !
4 months ago
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Once again for all who doesn't know what versus is, I'll explain once again. It is more like fun war but you don't have to search players, server neither war. All you need is to pick the game and size of team. It will automatically find players (depends size of team that you choosed). System will provide 2 maps out of 5-6 that are most played and you'll have to vote. On your ESLwire you'll see match and all you'll have to press is lunch game > start and it will automatically connect you to server.



4 months ago
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He earnt enough money to continue his offline life, obviously :D
4 months ago
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4 months ago
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b1z said:


Mode: 3on3 S&D

...
4 months ago
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yes it is 3v3 because they want to see activity first, if its gonna be active, theyll make it 5v5
4 months ago
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esl is now cro league

edited 2012-02-01 18:05:55
4 months ago
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Maybe its a good idea to add personal stats. K/D ratio/teamwin rate/personal winrate etc.

edited 2012-02-01 17:54:47
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z0dz0dz0dz0d said:
yes it is 3v3 because they want to see activity first, if its gonna be active, theyll make it 5v5



oke look good
4 months ago
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JiMmY-ION said:
ESL is great, problem is its built for people with an IQ of above 100

cya!

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