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Team Dignitas gives Clanbase a Red Card

Posted by Netherlands »ION«JiMmY-ION on 2008-06-06 11:08:37
ehhh wtf?

Yesterday our Call of Duty 4 team has played in the Clanbase EuroCup XVII Winner Bracket Final against H2k-Gaming and won it with 25-23. With Sko playing on his laptop for this one which had a different GUID than the one he entered in Clanbase, a few minutes after the match, H2k player and Clanbase admin SpoX gave H2k-Gaming a default win for Sko using the wrong GUID.

Dignitas is aware that Sko should have warned the admins about his laptop having a different GUID than the one registered on Clanbase. Clanbase ignored its own rules by letting SpoX, supervisor of the COD4 Eurocup and manager of H2k handle the case. However, CB realized that this was a mistake and have just announced that the co-supervisor, Chandler, will now be reviewing the case and taking all the proof in mind, to draw a final conclusion in the near future.

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Michael 'Mick' Bradshaw:
Why we would play without SKO, ill never know and sure enough if you watched him play you'll see its the exact same playstyle and there is no way we would play vs h2k with anyone other then sko.


*Update* - The admins have decided to uphold their prehistoric and backward decision, therefore Team Dignitas withdraws from all Clanbase cups. We only hope that they review their dying system before it causes others to suffer for absolutely no reason other than a jobs worth hat.

We would also like to remind Clanbase that they owe us €1500 and several graphics cards for over 8 months! We will put all our efforts into the far superior ESL League that is actually aiding the development of professional esports rather than hindering it.
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23 months ago
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lolpwned
23 months ago
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thats a good move , fuck clanbase
23 months ago
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good move , fuck clanbase idd
23 months ago
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best thing that could happened!

Brilliant step, fuck cb - all those supervisors are a joke!

I rly hope that more and more teams are going support this movement!
23 months ago
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hehe, so they move to ESL where you get banned if your profile picture isnt quite the right size, or your prematch statement has 2 few words ;P

pretty fucked up move by cb though, although i can understand they want to be consequent in following their rules
23 months ago
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Never really liked cb, too many whiners and complainers :/

CB losing dignitas participation is nothing big though, they still have plenty of big teams...

Hardly means anything, just that dignitas lose out on their cups etc
23 months ago
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haha dig with da smack dowN~
23 months ago
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Haha how is that a smackdown?

How are they showing CB a "red card"?

They're spitting their dummy out and losing out on potentially easy prized (if its all other games aswell?).

Bare in mind CB owe them that stuff, so hardly "PWN3D" them.

I'm pretty sure CB aren't losing sleep over this.
23 months ago
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Although it might not have much effect, it sure is a slap in the face of this EC with dignitas leaving and fnatic simply not participating.

Thorpy said:
Hardly means anything, just that dignitas lose out on their cups etc



They lose out on gamevouchers, shocking.

edited 2008-06-06 11:58:59
23 months ago
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And still CB made the right decision but w/e
23 months ago
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i have nothing against dignitas but

wrong GUID = forfeit loss, especially in eurocup

regardless of whatever supervisor gave that ruling its correct... sko, if it was really him should of asked that team if he could play.

I do agree it's a bit premature, ip's could have been checked etc, but lets face it, if you see a team you lose to play with a bad guid in something like the eurocup, id file for red card that's for sure if they didn't ask :)

nevermind

edited 2008-06-06 12:16:42
23 months ago
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It's not only for the fact that they had a wrong guid in their team that dignitas quits all the cups, i think it has more to do with spox handling the case over some other admins(who are all as much able to handle this case)as spox, since he is involved big time with the h2k management.

it just shows that u can use the clanbase system to your own benefits...though it wasnt intended this way by spox

edited 2008-06-06 12:29:59
23 months ago
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spox shouldnt play with h2k if he is the supervisor of the ec anyways
23 months ago
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Spox shouldnt have celebrated the forfeit win via his teams website, this just antagonised them

And also I think any issues like this need to be addressed before the game, so they can be sorted out. The problem could have been sorted if noticed at the start. The fact it was only declared after they lost just shows how immature *some* members of the team are
23 months ago
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spitting their dummy out because they cba to enter GUID... glad CB agreed to uphold the decision and not give any special treatment

Just like CB matches, its possible to check players ip and confirm but they dont so why should DIG have special treatment?

BIG CONGRATS TO CB AND WELL DONE!
23 months ago
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lighters said:
spitting their dummy out because they cba to enter GUID... glad CB agreed to uphold the decision and not give any special treatment

Just like CB matches, its possible to check players ip and confirm but they dont so why should DIG have special treatment?

BIG CONGRATS TO CB AND WELL DONE!



this.
23 months ago
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mmh thing is, it's dignitas' fault since they didn't warn anybody before the match about the problem. It's not up to h2k to tell dignitas sko is playing with the wrong guid.

imo if h2k wants to claim a forfait, it's their fully right to do so although it's kinda gay
23 months ago
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Rules should be the same for 1 and all. If this was a match between rank 500th and 501st nobody would have any sympathy.

The anger here should be directed at H2K's appalling sportsmanship as they have totally brought the sport into shame.

Matters like this should be restricted to being sorted out before the match begins.


I feel sorry for Dignitas, but no where near as strongly as I feel resent for the poor sportsmanship of H2K.
23 months ago
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sko didnt even know he was playing with the wrong guid, he had 2 keys on his laptop and because he joined through hlsw it linked it to the wrong 1. Clanbase will fail now tho, as if they wernt already :/

cant actually believe any1 sticks up for h2k in this because its possibly the saddest thing ive ever seen a team do, i can see why u support cb admins as they were upholding the rules even tho it is a retarded rule that should be altered.
23 months ago
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it is true the rule should be altered,
It should be made the team has to complain before RUP period
23 months ago
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I'm still waiting for my mousepad I won at christmas as well.. :D!
23 months ago
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cb's shit, but esl is also shitty :>
23 months ago
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I agree with the ready up bit, but I'm not the person that can just change rules which are used through whole ClanBase. If you don't agree with the rules, I suggest you e-mail the management about it.
23 months ago
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blackmane said:
sko didnt even know he was playing with the wrong guid, he had 2 keys on his laptop and because he joined through hlsw it linked it to the wrong 1. Clanbase will fail now tho, as if they wernt already :/

cant actually believe any1 sticks up for h2k in this because its possibly the saddest thing ive ever seen a team do, i can see why u support cb admins as they were upholding the rules even tho it is a retarded rule that should be altered.



I dont think i've seen ONE person stick up for H2K.

On the otherhand, people are sticking up for CB because they're only doing what their supposed to.
23 months ago
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even if dignitas had freelancer, they won fair enough! ...
23 months ago
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fair play to the admins sticking by their decision, it isnt their fault and as someone said, the anger should be displayed towards the h2k players who agreed not to reverse the decision as its a petty way to progress and they have now put "a bad naME" out for themselves tbh!
23 months ago
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Oke these might be teh rules but as a topteam vs another topteam (and proven lanteams) you really cant go doing something like this. Really lame from H2k but i'm not surprised, they try to lame their way through FGL aswell by enterin FF wins without even consulting the opponents.
23 months ago
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For Fuck Shake!
23 months ago
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#28 , amazing
23 months ago
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so basically dignitas rage quit cb cuz they didnt get there oown way becuase they think they deserve special treatment...
23 months ago
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Davy said:
Oke these might be teh rules but as a topteam vs another topteam (and proven lanteams) you really cant go doing something like this. Really lame from H2k but i'm not surprised, they try to lame their way through FGL aswell by enterin FF wins without even consulting the opponents.



they tried to lame their way tro L2W aswell :) (freelancer anyone)
23 months ago
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the_carlisle said:
so basically dignitas rage quit cb cuz they didnt get there oown way becuase they think they deserve special treatment...



just when you think it couldn't get any worse, this guy shows up :'(
23 months ago
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SpoX said:
I agree with the ready up bit, but I'm not the person that can just change rules which are used through whole ClanBase. If you don't agree with the rules, I suggest you e-mail the management about it.


normal an ready up means that u accept every thing, players,server settings,...
not? corect me if i'm wrong
23 months ago
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jelleh said:
SpoX said:
I agree with the ready up bit, but I'm not the person that can just change rules which are used through whole ClanBase. If you don't agree with the rules, I suggest you e-mail the management about it.


normal an ready up means that u accept every thing, players,server settings,...
not? corect me if i'm wrong



A rule is: If someone plays with a wrong GUID, then u've got automatically a forfeit lose.
23 months ago
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rem1x said:
jelleh said:
SpoX said:
I agree with the ready up bit, but I'm not the person that can just change rules which are used through whole ClanBase. If you don't agree with the rules, I suggest you e-mail the management about it.


normal an ready up means that u accept every thing, players,server settings,...
not? corect me if i'm wrong



A rule is: If someone plays with a wrong GUID, then u've got automatically a forfeit lose.


These rules contradict each other though. It's a teams responsibility to bring a wrong GUID to light before they ready up, since readying up confirms that they are ready for the game and all the formalities have been checked and found to be correct. It shouldn't even matter if there's a wrong GUID there; if the team doesn't pick it up before they start, it's their loss if they lose the match.
23 months ago
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BEAT YOU ALL UP AT LAN YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
23 months ago
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haha 1 epic fail coming up:D
23 months ago
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The decision may have had some weight behind it if there was a 24 hour GUID change rule or something. But IIRC the guid can be changed instantly and play with it instantly..

That means it's purely an admin error as I don't think anyone is suggesting that it wasn't SKO playing.

I know i've said it before but POOR SPORTSMANSHIP H2K.
23 months ago
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If you(Team Dignitas) wanna play on cb cups and ladders you will have to follow the rules. You arent superior neither special, so start getting over your whine and playing please.
Secound thing, moving to ESL LOOOOL is that a joke? everyone complains about CB but if it wasnt CB most part of clans would only play pcw's and would not be able to practice for lans and cups. So dont blame CB if you dont have any new sugestion... GL H2K and Good job CB you made the correct move.

edited 2008-06-06 16:12:21
23 months ago
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Why gl H2K? They don't need any luck.. infact they don't even need any skill.. they'll just lame their way through.. Infact they could hire someone purely to read between the lines so they win on default all the time.

It must be such a satisfying feeling to win through something like this. NOT!
23 months ago
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ReKo said:
Why gl H2K? They don't need any luck.. infact they don't even need any skill.. they'll just lame their way through.. Infact they could hire someone purely to read between the lines so they win on default all the time.

It must be such a satisfying feeling to win through something like this. NOT!



HAW, BURN
23 months ago
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Im pretty sure H2k wont be showing up at LAN for the coming 6 months :P
23 months ago
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GL H2K cause i like them, anything with that? and btw they dont lamme, the others just dont follow the rules (thats difrent stuff) <3 U ..

edited 2008-06-06 16:42:30
23 months ago
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I don't see why everyone is complaining at CB. Sko should of putten the correct GUID in.
23 months ago
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k1ck said:
GL H2K cause i like them, anything with that? and btw they dont lamme, the others just dont follow the rules (thats difrent stuff) <3 U ..



They conflicted the match, not CB! If H2K were decent guys they'd have swallowed DEFEAT like men, not sissy lil girls.

They may have benefitted from this event to progress on CB, BUT! this imo will tarnish any good they do in the future.
23 months ago
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k1ck said:
GL H2K cause i like them, anything with that? and btw they dont lamme, the others just dont follow the rules (thats difrent stuff) <3 U ..



you must've played with vanho the CB conflict hero
23 months ago
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H2K: lame/ unsportmanship/ retards => French ^^

nothing more to say ..
23 months ago
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k1ck said:
GL H2K cause i like them, anything with that? and btw they dont lamme, the others just dont follow the rules (thats difrent stuff) <3 U ..



how can you say they dont lame? look at davys post and the fact tat they have no sportsmanship at all, gimps tbh
23 months ago
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there is such a thing as gaming ettiquate, especially among professional teams. H2K clearly showed no respect to dignitas, ask yourself would diggy have done the same?

Lame how they didnt bring it up before the game started yet lost and look for a get out of jail free card.

H2K @ lamers.
23 months ago
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edited 2008-06-06 17:14:02
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