Will you make the move? - 1

Posted by Steven dfb Leunens on 2009-09-29 19:20:10
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Warning: with this article I’m merely putting some of my ideas and trails of thought out there. If you are looking for answers or a clear cut article on what is going to happen to the community you’ll probably end up miserably disappointed.


With not even two months before the release of Modern Warfare 2 I deemed the time right to take a look at the past and the future, and the problems the Call of Duty community might face. Needless to say the community is looking forward to a breath of fresh air but to me it seems like we are stuck in a twilight zone of insecurity and questions. No one has that magic 8-ball that can perfectly predict the future and determine whether Modern Warfare 2 will be a competitive success. Whether it will be a commercial success I think is beyond all doubt and bar the very successful World of Warcraft it has been the Call of Duty series bringing in the R&D dollars on which the successes (and failures) of tomorrow’s next big Activision-Blizzard game are built.

It’s not easy for the community right now, the wounds of Call of Duty 5 still fresh in our memories, but let’s not forget that the tables have turned for this game. We don’t have to deal with a quick scheme of transforming a console built game into a pc version just to get an extra buck. We are now facing the new game by Infinity Ward, which beyond all questioning is far superior in creating pc based games then Treyarch (the developer of Call of Duty 5). This means that the next series in the Call of Duty offspring will be far more likely to succeed in a competitive environment but what will it take to become the gigantic success we all linger for?

First of all I think a mentality change is needed with large portions of the community. Those flamers, haters and non-believers who think that their personal preference is the only way to go and that nothing will even come close to the game they love can confuse and destroy the overall public opinion with their hate-spreading comments and remarks. An otherwise great game can be shot down and perceived a completely different way just because a couple of people start a smear-campaign because they are afraid of change.

On the other hand, there is of course the requirement that the game itself has to be good and suitable for competitive play. That it won’t be out of the box ready for competitive play is quite normal, and it will probably require a substantial effort from the modding community to make sure it reaches a standard that allows for competitive play, but that the community is capable of that I have no doubt.  I also have little doubts that this game will be good, the graphics have improved and gameplay will be slightly different but I’m fairly confident that overall there will be some nice improvements and things people will enjoy enough to keep on playing.

But the twilight zone remains as I keep wondering whether people actually want a new game. It’s in human nature that once you have grown accustomed to one thing, you reject the idea of change and transition into something new. Most people can go their whole lives clinging on to what they like, repulsing anything which even comes close to changing that status quo. This is the reason a lot of people go to a restaurant with the intention to try something new but usually end up ordering the T-bone steak with mushroom sauce they just like so much. It was within this particular mindset that conflicts occured such as the Call of Duty 2 versus Call of Duty 4 debacle when Call of Duty 5 was branded a failure. People wanted security in an insecure time and this caused a rupture and a non-unified front.

In all fairness however a new game also opens up new doors. Enhanced graphics could seduce hardware companies to spend some marketing dollars on cross-promotion using Modern Warfare 2. Perhaps we will even see several sponsors directly entering the market by sponsoring teams or competitions. Thousands and thousands of new gamers will also learn about Call of Duty, gamers who have never picked up any of its ancestors. Young gamers who are trying out their first game will receive an action packed shooter under their Christmas tree, springing to life new talent and a fresh boost for the community. This alone could be the most positive aspect of the new game.

 Despite my remarks and the "twilight feeling" I’m having, I still have high hopes for Modern Warfare 2 and I think in the end the community will make the switch. Perhaps the new game will become even bigger in numbers and give sponsors better opportunities. Perhaps we’ll even see a TV tool get developed along the way, something the community has been waiting for since vanilla CoD. However it turns out, we’ll only be able to tell what direction the community is going after the game has released and been in circulation for a couple of months.

And how about you? Will you make the move?

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35 months ago
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I think MW2 will be casual, W&S the PAM6 or promod :)
35 months ago
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go css
33 months ago
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1.6 was here, being all superior and requiring skill to play.

source is for casuals.
35 months ago
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Really good read! There is something I completely agree with 150% that I wanted to highlight:

dfb said:
First of all I think a mentality change is needed with large portions of the community. Those flamers, haters and non-believers who think that their personal preference is the only way to go and that nothing will even come close to the game they love can confuse and destroy the overall public opinion with their hate-spreading comments and remarks.



Totally agree and I believe that this counts in general as well. Looking at it from an in-game and community (tek9) perspective. A lot of people, specially kids, has got the impression that it is cool to flame. Hopefully we'll see less of this in CoD:MW2.

Personally I'm really looking forward to a new game, new maps etc., so will definitely make the move, granted that the competitive level remains.


edited 2009-09-29 19:36:41
35 months ago
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I think stay at CoD4 will be the best choice, if MW2 PAM/promod will suck ( i said if :) )
35 months ago
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real nice read. Also, i cant see this game being bad, with pretty much most people bored of call of duty 4 series, i think most people are looking for a change since call of duty 5 was the biggest fail.....ill be buying it :)
35 months ago
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good read, MW2 has a lot of potential...
35 months ago
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The right decsions need to made about the game and its mod early on and we have to somehow not let game community split into so many different factions ie...

promod players

HC players

Pam mod players

etc etc


The game needs a bigger public playing group ie more servers on a unified mod.

also take out whats needed but dont be affraid of change for example we shouldn't dismiss some guns straight off for example the p90 or whatever.

Some of These decisions where mae very early in cod4 and the game was then always in a fractured state so cut off from the majority of public players and there so so unlike CoD2!!
35 months ago
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Alot of people like myself are getting bored of Call of Duty 2 now. But we still don't want to play CoD4. I think 80% of all clean CoD2 players will go to MW2 but thats what I think
35 months ago
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Xtreem said:
Alot of people like myself are getting bored of Call of Duty 2 now. But we still don't want to play CoD4. I think 80% of all clean CoD2 players will go to MW2 but thats what I think

so 4 players will move over? :O
35 months ago
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already made a move ... to quake
35 months ago
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mactox said:
already made a move ... to quake

35 months ago
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I believe the community will move and even if the mod is bad, they will try to find a solution for it (by making a new mod ofc.) CoD2 players should move to MW2 as well, since it would make the community grow at least about 33%, but the cheaters can just fuck off. Hopefully we get good anti-cheat + no more these "secret console commands" for the upcoming game right?
35 months ago
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NOOOO I AM WRITING AN ARTICLE ON THE EXACT SAME THING.

well sort of.

edited 2009-09-29 21:01:32
35 months ago
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Imo, the community can make wonders with a game via mods. Cod4 was a game for shitters at the begining, but mod and community's feedback was the kick in the ass which cod4 needed. After promod was released, it was sort of a mini boom and the game became popular again. Same thing will happen with mw2, although we'll be able to adjust the game faster since we've gathered the experienced needed from cod4, and we all know what has to be removed / added / improved in a game with modern weapons and enviroment. For some reason, people think the game will fail like cod5 did, even though they know it was made by totally different developers (treyarch fails). Let us not be bothered with perks, helicopters, kill streaks and throwing knives - we'll remove it anyway. It's going to be a gg.

edited 2009-09-29 21:41:25
35 months ago
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on a personnal note i'd say i'm looking forward to it, maybe i'll like it more than cod 4. where i didn't have so much of fun neither in public game or war...(own taste ofc).

As I used to be a ctf player i hope the ctf mode will be good and might be used as a lan mode no i'm jocking knowing it won't happen. Well hopefully some online league will take it into consideration (other than usual cb,edom,esl ladder and cup)!

C u there ;)
35 months ago
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"And how about you? Will you make a move?"

No.

edited 2009-09-30 16:59:35
35 months ago
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KNALLER said:
go css



if cod4 comunity move to mw2 i realy will
35 months ago
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mw2s gotta be good!
Nice read steven
35 months ago
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Something not mentioned in your interesting article but I feel is important is ESL's and other leagues approach to the game.
I really hope there quick off the mark and the admins leading the leagues don't just look at bringing in the usual teams. For too long Clanbase has been the main focus for Call of Duty gamers yet it really offers very little; in time the ladders become stagnant and there cups become repetitive..
I would like to see ESL move in quick as well as SGL and the other popular CS:S leagues offer more one night cups etc. which will hopefully provide more chances for newer teams to earn awards and give them a chance to play the bigger teams.

I would like to see the Clanbase only clans give these other places a chance and put this multi teaming to bed.. otherwise in two years time I have no doubt teams will become board again.
35 months ago
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supreme said:
mactox said:
already made a move ... to quake


35 months ago
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great read , lets hope mw2 brings the stability that this community needs...
tbh i played cs 1.6 and css and if there is something that made me change to cod was the great bunch of peepz that most of this community is made off , and would be a shame to see them all scattered through 3 different games
35 months ago
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zkAziEE. said:
KNALLER said:
go css



if cod4 comunity move to mw2 i realy will



These guys are c00l! +1 for css

Honestly, I don't give a shit. If the comm will move I will move too, if not - me not too, simple.

edited 2009-09-29 23:42:40
35 months ago
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RB said:
Totally agree and I believe that this counts in general as well. Looking at it from an in-game and community (tek9) perspective. A lot of people, specially kids, has got the impression that it is cool to flame. Hopefully we'll see less of this in CoD:MW2..



srsly dude, the flame is in every game, look at football, it's not about the kids, those who are elder should be an example to the younger, but they're obviously not!

I hope MW doesn't need much more hardware than CoD4 (prolly does), but then I just won't be able to play it.

UNITY was the keyword we used alot of times when CoD5 came out, unfortunately it went all wrong. hope the community learned something in those days and will realise a united CoD-community these days :)
35 months ago
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New COD4 mod plz
35 months ago
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If promod is implemented immediately after the release of mw2 and we get some cod4 favorites and some good new maps with mw2 it will be a huge success I think. Good write up
35 months ago
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MW2 needs a panel like cod2 had and the start of cod4 had.
35 months ago
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great read, MW2 has potential, bcuz cod4 is boring every1, its always the same. 2ak-u's 2ak's and a scope. fml.
hope MW2 brings more variety
35 months ago
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KarL said:
MW2 needs a panel like cod2 had and the start of cod4 had.


one is already sorted.
35 months ago
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first need to know how the game is and the development around it (promod etc). whenever thats good, ill make a pc update and make the move.
35 months ago
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who is on this panel carlisle
35 months ago
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tbh just have to wait - im looking forward to it tho :)
35 months ago
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im going to get it, but ill still play cod4 aswell.
Does any1 know if theres gonna be a co-op or new gametypes? (i like to get alot for my money, hope its not rubbish..)
35 months ago
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I think I'll wait for competitive mod to get out before trying it
35 months ago
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hope mw2 will be good , if it is ill switch
35 months ago
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erasus7 said:
who is on this panel carlisle


Not my place to say really. Have to wait and see :).
35 months ago
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Nice read Steven! I'll make the switch regardless tbh, bored of cod4, cod2s boring and vanilla cod wont install on my PC :/

It has the potential to be huge, and I'm really hoping it is.
35 months ago
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no
35 months ago
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First of all nice read, good job!

I will be steppin over to MW2 and what u sayd about the community needing to change allot is true all those flamers should pack there bags and leave. It ruins the game big time!
I hope this whole normal mod vs HC mod fucks of aswell, its pointless.
For the game to have a big inpact it needs a good mod to start off with, i think promod came to late in CoD4.
Anyways lets hope for the best, i think the developers have done a good job to make this game good now lets hope the community steps its game up aswell and lets be more possitive towards each other!!!
35 months ago
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Aerox said:
Xtreem said:
Alot of people like myself are getting bored of Call of Duty 2 now. But we still don't want to play CoD4. I think 80% of all clean CoD2 players will go to MW2 but thats what I think

so 4 players will move over? :O



Something like that yes :D
35 months ago
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cod4=mw2
35 months ago
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KNALLER said:
go css


oh noooo. imho this game is sorta cod5 in cod series. i'd better go back to cs 1.6 :)

will i move or not? all i want are stability and balance. if i find them, i'll move.
35 months ago
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once mw2 is out i'm not touching cod4 anymore i think. even without decent mods, cod4 is just about 3 weapons so i hope mw2 is gonna be different.
35 months ago
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MW2 will prob be good if there is a decent match mod :]
35 months ago
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Well if this game is gonna "flop" we will all probably be stuck at cod4. And to not let the community die I'm different maps. f/e mp_carentan (there is a cod2 version for cod4 available as well), mp_crash_winter (it looks so stupid but basically its the same als crash but it brings a difference), mp_vacant (either the original version or a modded one with bigger walls and a closed roof on B). But also custom maps are possible, like they do in 1.6, css and the american cod community....

just an idea...
35 months ago
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oh i SO want MW2 to succeed. but i don't know if it actually will. i'll move on to TF2 then.
35 months ago
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If new and good CoD4 maps would be released i wouldn't. But yes, now i will move over to MW2
35 months ago
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the only way to make mw2 interesting is to create 4 competitive maps that dont have thousand dark corners and spots where you can hide..
35 months ago
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mw2 will just be improved version of cod4, community knows whats got to happen and we can all start playing sooner than we could play cod4
35 months ago
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C4RLI5L3 said:
erasus7 said:
who is on this panel carlisle


Not my place to say really. Have to wait and see :).



:)
35 months ago
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P4UL said:
Nice read Steven! I'll make the switch regardless tbh, bored of cod4, cod2s boring and vanilla cod wont install on my PC :/

It has the potential to be huge, and I'm really hoping it is.


you are huge is'nt that enough???
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