TEK9 Weekly #1 - TEK9 Weekly 1/2

Posted by Bob Bcrbo Van de Voorde on 2011-09-05 18:07:55

TEK9 Weekly #1

This article is the sole opinion of Josh Lee and not of HeavenMedia.

The last 7 days have sort of been a love-hate thing for me. For motivation's sake I suppose I'll only write about the pleasing subjects. Unfortunately for me, there are only a couple of topics that have actually intrigued me – and even some of those have their negative points.

 

Grunex MSi LAN

To start, I have to say that I am happy with the fact that CoD4 still has LANs like this. LANs like this serve as the backbone of the game and as with any game, no matter the prizepot or LAN, they represent the lifeline still ticking away on the old eSports heart monitor.

One of the main plus points for me is the fact that this LAN provided so many great games and overall some interesting upsets. Although I didn't quite catch the entire event it would have been hard not to notice MIW's extremely well placing. Like a rhino driven by force and motivation they took to the playoffs like a beast. I specifically remember watching their game vs. Anexis and by god they almost won mp_crash. It' a real shame that they had an 11-04 lead and managed to throw it away but to see them coming so close to knocking Anexis to the lower bracket was inspiring to say the least. MIW ended up finishing 3rd in the entire event and got that well-earned laminated check.

Now, one of the downsides for me was the stream of the Final. Now as much as I appreciate Maza for getting down there and actually putting up a stream, I felt like the Grand Final stream was below par. It didn't quite capture the whole "LAN Final" atmosphere that it should have had. There was useless screaming and too much joking around. Judging by the views (peaked at around 2000) one could infer that there were actually people interested in watching this match. The second the screaming started, 400 viewers dropped and for me the game was masked over by banshee-like screams that followed with hyena laughs. I for one wasn't captivated. The mute button had never looked so inviting before.

(Might aswell have just put this lovely creature on the microphone during the final)

Grunex MSi LAN: 7/10

EMS

EMS being announced was definitely one of the stand-out points for me in the past week or two. Most will feel the same. The announcement goes to show that ESL still have CoD4 in mind and it's up to us now to not muck it up. I'm hoping CoD4 doesn't follow in TF2's footsteps and end up dropkicking the men that have been so nice to give us another chance.

Some of the qualifiers have already started and I for one cannot wait to see who will represent each respective country. The main thing I am worried about is the fact that some teams complain ENDLESSLY about ESL Wire. "Oh my god, I'm lagging like shit! ESL Wire sucks" is a saying that gets passed around as if it were a joint at a Bob Marley concert. Who gives a crap? Be happy you are even playing in a proper online tournament. Don't be so quick to provide excuses as to why you missed your 360 quick-scope flying off of mid roof trying to get a movie frag in an important round. Bottom line – deal with it.

EMS Announcement: 8/10

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10 months ago
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Oh we're around. But we've also had quite a few events to attend recently which has caused a bit of a slow down. But we're here, and things are happening.... Soon!

edited 2011-09-05 18:26:06
10 months ago
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I know Bob can't do everything himself but he should write things like this. (or even better get jetset back)


edited 2011-09-05 18:27:57
10 months ago
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WIRE is like the best AC. lol
10 months ago
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!!
10 months ago
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with old TCM last EMS at least 2-3 players had problems for every game

sometimes 30 fps, game crash, ESL wire crash

If they have improved it that might be fixed and I really hope so :o
10 months ago
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nice read
10 months ago
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Good stuff Josh.
10 months ago
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"TOODLES!", he says.
10 months ago
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Remember most of the VN Council are players, so they've obviously been busy preparing for LANs, (nreo and tomzki in particular). Messioso, another driving force in VN administered like 3 or 4 LAN events these past 2 months. z1n0 is doing some Danish undercover stuff, and is the only one writing on CG atm.

All of the above have been working really hard to try and figure out the best course of action as to channel reforms and the upcoming CG Leagues, they're really dedicating all the time they can spare really.

An announcement on the leagues is being worked on as we speak by Tomzki.
10 months ago
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Looks good.

It would be good to ask Immortal Servers for a better quality image because that one is in a terribly low resolution.

Do you think that having 3 matches per week for the leagus could be an issue if there are more leagues starting soon (ESH, EMS, etc)?
10 months ago
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We'd like to fix the quality of the logo but the designer is forever busy.

As for the leagues, we may change it as it all depends on the signups.
10 months ago
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What? Immortal Servers don't have a better logo than that? :S
9 months ago
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Let me reword it. Immortal Servers have a high quality logo, just the designer of the actual press release doesn't have time to fix it or at least there were some complications with it.
10 months ago
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Nice read.
10 months ago
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i am a calm guy but how the fok can someone who wasnt even on grunex lan judge it like this ? get a clue
10 months ago
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I'm sorry to say but the Grand Final stream was below par. Who's slating the LAN? You've obviously just taken that WAY too much to heart and not even read into exactly what I said Lubo.

I have every right to talk about a stream seeing as I was one of the spectators on the stream. Why do I need to be at the LAN to talk about how well the Grand Final stream was?.. honestly..

edited 2011-09-05 20:29:46
10 months ago
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the ''grand final'' atmosphere was below a 10 year old streaming tetris using his cell for mic.
10 months ago
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7/10 is a relatively good mark tbh.

For example, if I scored a 7/10 chick then I'd be high-fiving myself for weeks. Like a boss.

For real though, the stream's standard was annoyingly below par.
10 months ago
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Josh....
10 months ago
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Sigh.
10 months ago
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Nice read. Thanks for the props. For the record, I don't like haggis :(

Big thanks to germaine for his help with ACM.
10 months ago
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!
10 months ago
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I agree Josh, a lan of this magnitude should of had good casting, I also appreciate the effort Mazarini made.

Could & should of been better..
10 months ago
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Everyone is moaning about the steam, why don't any of you casters do something about it? Why don't you go there with your gear and do it!

So much talk, little to no action, we need as many streams as we can!
10 months ago
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Wiz I don't see how it's beneficial to have a Grand Final being streamed while they are laughing, yelling, and making jokes half the time and sounding monotone the other half. Really.
10 months ago
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Its not and the casters should know better. I listened to it and had to turn off the stream because of the casting, it was awful but if there is no one to do it then what do you expect. My point still stands tho, why aren't other companies there!
10 months ago
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I would have happily have been there, aswell as Vince would have loved to have been there - but there wasn't any active communication between myself and an organiser.
10 months ago
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Then make that connection!! :D
10 months ago
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Fact is, Will "wizinium" Hunter, Kaos offered to stream this - even free!!!!! - and Grunex still rejected.
10 months ago
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Ahh didn't know, who was the organizer? Didn't paradox have good connections with him?

<3
10 months ago
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I messaged them a while back about the prospects of casting there, didn't even get a reply back saying 'no thanks.' Then heard Mennace might be doing it, then heard KaosTV were doing it. Needless to say nothing went through. I didn't actually hear the cast myself, but judging from what people have said, it didn't do the whole competitive drive of CoD4 to the outside powers too much good.
10 months ago
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Martin Liberský is the organiser. He wanted to cooperate with Czech gamers for the stream.
9 months ago
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if mennace sees this then he aint gonna be a happy bunny mr hunter :D
9 months ago
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correct lol he was raging on ts about this lan trlol
10 months ago
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I think it was all part of the fun.. and to be honest was laughing my arse myself
10 months ago
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Might be funny for some, but put yourself in a businessman's shoes who connected to the stream to see the game, to watch it competitively, to make his decision on how well the game is run and how well the coverage may be. He's turned on the stream and immediately hears yelling followed by massive laughter then followed by random chit-chat. Tell me how that's going to make this man go "BY GOD BATMAN. WE'VE FOUND A PROFESSIONAL GAME WE CAN INVEST IN!"
10 months ago
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gotta agree with that to be honest :(

always enjoyed having 1 genuinely enthusiastic shoutcaster and 1 knowledgeable co-caster, i expect youve watched cs but for anyone who hasnt, the joe & lurppis/threat combo was always awesome to listen to and watch. but i suppose having played cod4 a bit you can make up for that ;d
10 months ago
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@germaine - I prefered the Xizt and Joe combo but I get what you mean :D
10 months ago
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don't really like the article idea regardless of the writer as it seems really short and pointless, almost like its there just to fill up some space on the website

edit: cba to cause discussion

edited 2011-09-05 23:48:48
10 months ago
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Good read brrah. Weekly #2 is gonna be gewd.
9 months ago
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nice read
9 months ago
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nice read bob.


The part is... will codtv rly help? I see that cod4 will never get support again (or until a miracle investor appear) this is the problem as cod is dying, Or Codtv has to be promoted as fuck EVERYWHERE and absolutely everywhere... We need org supporting cod again rly.. no :D?
9 months ago
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yea nice read bob :S
9 months ago
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yea nice read bob S
9 months ago
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Yeah totally Bob you fucking beast writer. Oh my GOD you're so beast you've managed to shapeshift into a entirely different fucking person! Jesus H. Shitballs.

edited 2011-09-06 13:07:05
9 months ago
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zz
9 months ago
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we could have only maza's czech shoutcast, but community asked for english stream so he did a great job with his "not so good" english and tried to do maximum, also cod4 players showed great opportunity and were helping him with shoutcasting, choobie/nreo/lking/froster and aerox (if i forgot about someone, im sorry) did great job aswell ...

event was really great, ofc it was really hot inside the venue, but u cant really do something about it :o)

hope everyone enjoyed the lan and i hope this lan showed some kind of new lan-system for TUP lans, which were always giving just 3 matches for lot of teams and it wasnt worth of their money

also im hoping for mr15 in bo1 matches, would be much more better :) ... bo3 with mr12 is fine :)
9 months ago
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anyway judging lan just because of level of streaming in grand finals ... lolz :)
9 months ago
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Uhm yes? Coverage is one of the main things to hype an event. If the coverage fails, there's nothing for the outside world to speculate on. I'm sorry but 7/10 is good considering I can't think of one event in the last 2 years in CoD4 that is a 10/10. Sorry to burst your bubble but thinking a Grand Final stream is unimportant would be dumb.
9 months ago
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Where was you at this LAN ozbot? Owait your too shit to even play the game in a remotely good team to be in attendance.

You want shoutcasters to be more professional then fuckign do something about it instead of cosntantly whining on tek9 about it
9 months ago
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSPKTA0KQxM

He's in a fragmovie, you're not. Argument invalid, jog on.
9 months ago
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Excuse me?

And you know exactly what Ozbot does in real life? How could you remotely tell of what might be hindering him to not be able to cast?

You talk about "fucking do something", yet he's written the article and you're flaming him for not doing anything? Grow up.
9 months ago
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reapah first of all. hes trying to make a point. and fuck off with that your to shit to be in a good team to attend. every team can attend and do something great even knocking out us of the groupstage. and he just saying that there aren't many good shoutcasters hes trying to help.
9 months ago
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reapah you clearly have the mental capacity of a comatose earwig. ozbot is a good player and just isnt in a team not because he is bad, but because he doesnt want to play the game.

how can he impact on the professionalism of other shoutcasters? its up to individuals to make themselves more professional, all josh can do is write what he thinks and hope that they act on it :)

pwnd
9 months ago
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All he can do is write and moan about it, rather than doing something about it.

He doesnt like the shoutcasting then write a guide to shoutcasting etc,. If he knows as much as he says. Its not difficult. Seriously theres always something to whine about with this community.
9 months ago
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FUCKiNG GWAN WILL <3
9 months ago
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What you chattin!
9 months ago
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One thing that I have to ask is – where is Vita Nova at the moment? Now don't get your panties in a bunch and immediately start pulling out the big guns screaming at me thinking this is a go at them. I'm merely wondering where they are and what's going on. I have to tip my hat off to Seanza as he is doing incredible work right now. I actually rate him as one of the lead mechanics that's working hard on this broken down beater of a car we call Call of Duty 4. He is doing everything he can to get events up and running and keep this game alive and for that I have nothing but respect for the young Scotsman.

But what's kicking me in the head is that around this time last year Vita Nova were the so called "drivers" behind Call of Duty 4 and now it's shifted towards Seanza. What happened? I know there was an announcement of sorts concerning some new big online thing but will that even equal up to Seanza's work in the last months? With another Adroits on the way in December and who knows how many more, is VN even needed?

In my opinion, we don't even need a "representing group" behind CoD4. We need individuals who don't require a title to work. And with that I throw out a call to all the men who want to host their own LANs and own events – follow in the footsteps of the haggis loving and Cam Girl stalking Scotsman. Don't demand respect or demand you have a title. Keep true to yourself and true to your word and do what YOU feel will kick our beloved game back on track.




clueless lol


just becuase its not got vita nova doesnt mean its not driven by vita nova members =)

edited 2011-09-06 21:51:54
9 months ago
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lmao i enjoyed reading this
9 months ago
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If you're suggesting that VN have anything to do with my events, you're so wrong it's unreal.
9 months ago
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You're an absolute fucking idiot. Holy shit.
9 months ago
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EDIT

@WarHead
My bad, thought it was written by ono, I didn't bother to read Josh' article.

edited 2011-09-07 15:10:49
9 months ago
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That wasn't written by ono z1n0. It was written by Josh and I understand his point. I like how people are slating him because he doesn't believe there needs to be a titled group to help CoD4 when everyone can just do it themselves.

Everyone from VN seems to be getting upset when it's not even a slant on Vita Nova itself it's more about his thoughts on the scene and saying people can do it themselves without needing to feel apart of a group. In all honesty I've seen VN act elitist at times but you both have good points. It's not about who is right or wrong in this case - just leave him to his own opinion and you keep yours.
9 months ago
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Interesting...but at least it's sparked a bit of a debate :)
9 months ago
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VN get behind the launch of a new community website, launch ladders and now a prized league (which has been needed in this scene, for a long time), and you're questioning if VN are even needed?

It's not about titles or respect Josh, it's about people who actually want to work on improving the scene, getting together and doing just that.

We're a relatively small scene compared to other competitive titles, how exactly is it a bad thing that we have a "representing group" that gets together and works on ideas on how to improve the scene?

@WarHead
you seem like a smart kid, there's really no reason to defend your brother, he's clueless.

edited 2011-09-07 15:18:31
9 months ago
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I'm defending it because I have the same opinion not because he's my brother. Even if it were the case that I was just defending him because he's my brother there is no use in calling him clueless for not having the same opinion as yourself. That's just blasphemy.

The point being made was that if one or two people can do things on their own - why is there a group needed to represent CoD4? Why can't people just do it themselves? Please show me where he said VN aren't doing shit and please show me where he's slated the work you have actually done? You can't show me that because it's not there. He even goes "This isn't a go at VN". Obviously you have taken it as one and because of that I am free to defend him.
9 months ago
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I'm sorry but if you share his opinion, you are just as ignorant.

I'm not calling him clueless because I don't share his opinion, I'm calling him clueless because his weird train of thought makes no sense at all, and his idea of what is good/bad for the community is way off.

Questioning VN's existence IS having a go at VN and saying "This isn't a go at VN" doesn't make it any less so.

"I know there was an announcement of sorts concerning some new big online thing but will that even equal up to Seanza's work in the last months? With another Adroits on the way in December and who knows how many more, is VN even needed?"

Think about that sentence for 2 minutes, and tell me it's not absolute bullshit. So because Seanza organizes an occasional LAN, VN (and subsequently the work VN do together as a group, like running CyberGamer fx.) is no longer needed? What the fuck kind of logic is that?

Instead of calling to all men with this poor piece of writing, he should get off his ass and do something useful himself.

edited 2011-09-07 15:58:05
9 months ago
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Do you need your fancy VN title to run a league? :) Do you need to stamp everything with "VN"? No. You don't. Quite simply put.

Your league was announced after he wrote this. Obviously didn't bother to check that out either.
9 months ago
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Since when where titles illegal?

The title is reflective of the group or organization who organized the league. You want us to rename it "The D1ablo, nreo, tomzki, messioso, Jimmy, z1n0 and Jeremy from CG League" ?

It's like giving UEFA shit for calling it the UEFA Champions League. Who even cares what it's called? And what does that have to do with the point I was trying to make?

I'm starting to think that your arguments make as much sense as your brothers.. and the fact that he wrote it before we announced the league, doesn't make his opinion _at the time_ any less retarded.

edited 2011-09-07 16:18:24
9 months ago
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Why can't you just call it CG League? do you NEED the fucking recognition? Do you need to have your god damn names in there?

Why are you comparing CoD4 to Football? lmfao. As if you are sat there comparing a multi million dollar company to a small budget "representing group". And you're sitting there talking about me not making sense.

9 months ago
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It was an example solely about the point of the title, of course the two can't be compared.

Alright WarHead, let me give you another example.

Let's say the god's above strike Josh in the head with a lightning bolt, and he magically grows a pair of balls. Let's say he gains a sudden urge to do something useful for the community, let's say he decides to run a LAN event. He decides to do it with friends, and they decide to call their little group "Astroids", and their first LAN is called "Astroids CoD Masters".

Seriously... who is going to give two fucks what the LAN event is called. Shouldn't we all just be happy that your brother and his mates bothered to organize an event in the first place?

If an organization, in this case (VN), are to gain interest from sponsors for future projects (cups, LAN's, w/e), it is a hell of a lot easier to refer to a VN branded league and say "look, this is the work we've done in the past, would you consider investing in this other project we're working on?!"

There's more to it then a fucking title, and it's not about the recognition.
9 months ago
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Last I heard he's just confirmed a partnership with the most followed console clan to promote ProMod outside the world of PC and get people interested. So he actually IS doing something for the community.

And yes, you're correct that we should just all be happy that him and his friends took the initiative to form this - but that was NOT the point he was making. The point he was making was why do we need to have one single group try to represent the game? Why is there a need to have a group as the fore-front for running everything?

It doesn't take an entire group to get investments. So I don't get your point on that matter.
9 months ago
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If that is the case, I look forward to see what Josh has in store for all of us.

Nobody has every claimed that we need a single group at the forefront, VN just happened to form at a time when nobody else was taking initiative, and for a long time people have been looking at VN to sort shit out.
9 months ago
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I just want to say (again, not a stab at anybody) but VN have nominated themselves as the forefront group of Call of Duty 4 when they became the ones who decided who belongs to which skill group.

Really not a stab, but moreso a fact.
9 months ago
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By your logic, no organization can ever brand their projects with their own name, ever again. Because OMFG, we can't allow them to get recognition for it!?!

Your brother is a whining basket case, and he should be leading by example instead of pointing fingers with illogical arguments.
9 months ago
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No. But you guys try to be the MAIN group. You want to be the group that's running CoD4 shit, and when someone says they feel otherwise look at what you do. You get annoyed and start lashing out 1 by 1.

Good job in showing how much you want to be CoD4's leading group. Good job in showing that when someone feels you aren't needed as that fore-front you get angry.
9 months ago
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I was stating my personal opinion, not speaking on VN's behalf.

I only joined VN recently, and all I have done since then, was try to help get CG off the ground.

I have no interest in making VN the leading group in CoD4, and I don't see how you can draw that conclusion from what I've said.

Good job making no sense, like your brother.
9 months ago
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Nej nej truqq USTAA.....

Relax guys :X. Stop starting arguments Kastro... Everyone is entitled to their opinion. obviously we both feel differently. Just leave it at that.

noyaan mn bro.

You might find me clueless z1n0 but this is an opinion piece and I will continue to voice my opinion in every weekly. Regardless if you like it or not.

edited 2011-09-07 17:54:05
9 months ago
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As z1no said, Vita Nova was formed at a time in which it was needed. I remember back at i39 when me and Vanner were in the bar at Newbury actually forming Vita Nova then due to the disater of cod4 and mw2 at i39. Someone needed to take lead and put the community in the right direction which was COD4 at the time.

We wanted to move COD4 forward and not act as a body which so many believe it is. After we launched it, people now rely on VN to support and do something for the scene which is shown by the amount of threads and forum topics about the project.

COD4 relies on every single person in the community to start working together to pull this back, your next article should be on that and I hope after speaking to you on xfire earlier, you can help lead the initiative!

:)

edited 2011-09-07 20:04:07
9 months ago
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I loved the movement in this game in the push towards CIC7, that's when I really started to frequent TEK 9 a lot more. And I don't think the community can be blamed for depending on VN, it was very much forced upon them when VN took over the channels and, essentially, determined who went into which skill category.

I loved when the community had a togetherness about it, and now it consists of an angry mob of people who act as if they're living in a country with a government they didn't vote for.
9 months ago
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I love that moment too and that's what the defining moment in Vita Nova was CiC7 and gave it the publicity it needed with VN pretty much in control of the COD side of the LAN.

Well it was pretty much my decision to make new channels which at that point was needed with Sui getting a lot of flame on how the channels were run and it did get a lot of backing from the community. I was not involved in the skill section of the channels and that seemed to slip away and I was in London when Academy was made, pointless channel if you ask me!

The community lack togetherness which once made it a force to reckon with but now, I don't know what has happened, I guess things change and too many people take things for granted. Vita Nova are only a body and the community need some sort of direction whether is be Vita Nova or not, at the end of the day it is only a name. There is no reason why others can't contribute to the community rather than the usual few!
9 months ago
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from the competetive point of view the lan was very good i'd say. but the casting obviously could have been better on many occasions, when they took it serious they all did a good job especially L-king, but when the jokes started stacking it took away the competetive aspect and seriousness away from the spectators view. And about the casting of the final yes aerox's casting was nowhere near professional although I was cringing with pretty much 90% of the viewers but then again it was a final but it looked like a complete joke from a spectatros/viewers perspective. It's definitely a lesson learned and we should aim to avoid such things especially in the important matches. Kudos to Paradox and those who arranged a good, solid .eu lan for cod4 <3 but next time such thing shouldn't be done without experienced casters :)

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