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| posted by: Splatski on 2008-03-04, 20:43 |
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page 4: Dr. Murray interview cont.
You talk as if it's certain that the causal direction... the fact that cannabis may have a causal role in some mental illness is a matter of fact, yet the studies are actually very small populations of people who actually developed psychosis. Were they statistically significant, how robust is this research?
Well the studies are not all small. The Swedish army study was a study of 50,000 men inducted into the Swedish army and then followed up for 25 years and they found that several hundred people went psychotic. And the people who had smoked cannabis when they were 18 heavily, they were six times more likely to go psychotic. Some of the other studies have been smaller and more intensive. But it's relatively unusually in epidemiology for all the studies to point in the same direction and since 2002 there have been six studies and they've al pointed in the same direction.
We really have to do some equivalent studies where we actually understand the mechanism in the brain in much greater detail than we understand it at present before it can be 100% proven.
How confident are you that cannabis plays a role in the development of some mental illness, some psychosis?
Oh I think I am much more confident. I would say I am convinced. Why am I convinced? Partly because of the evidence, but partly because of the patients I see and also the fact that when people who are psychotic, when they stop taking cannabis you can have such a dramatic improvement, so it seems fairly logical, if you stop doing something and you improve, maybe it contributed to it in the first place.
Related
www.ukcia.org/cannabis.phphttp://www.talktofrank.com/drugs.aspx?id=172Which side of the fence do you fall? Are you for or against the legalisation of cannabis?
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| #1 |
 Framp |
2008-03-04 21:06:44 |
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interesting read |
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| #2 |
 tek9.con |
2008-03-04 21:25:56 |
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deffo, very nice read |
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| #3 |
 tek9.sCARFACEEe |
2008-03-04 21:30:33 |
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Interesting read and some decent points mades.
I'm not sure about the legalisation of cannabis, I smoke it (sometimes), and I have my bad times and good times with it. But to be on the safe side, I would go with no. |
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| #4 |
 #euroCASSIAS |
2008-03-04 22:33:57 |
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nice article,
i haven't smoked any joint yet but i know you all people outside NL love NL cus your able to smoke and get highhh here |
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| #5 |
 tek9.VulcanO |
2008-03-05 00:01:52 |
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a nice article Splat !!
an interesting subject and an original approach ...
some good points made |
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| #6 |
tek9.nano |
2008-03-05 00:08:00 |
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lol nice work.. good interviews
Personally i hate weed but i have nothing morally against it. |
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| #7 |
 unph4zd |
2008-03-05 02:20:33 |
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ounce a day to keep me high.
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| #8 |
 Kolonel |
2008-03-05 06:33:53 |
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Very interesting stuff.
Only times I smoke weed is when I had it, cuz you won't find quality stuff here. |
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| #9 |
Toddski |
2008-03-05 10:07:11 |
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"And the people who had smoked cannabis when they were 18 heavily, they were six times more likely to go psychotic."
definition of heavy smoking please? :) |
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| #10 |
4K^junior |
2008-03-05 14:03:20 |
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[R]eason.Stonerseries @ CPC2 LoLz. Nufin like a fat raggamuffin whilst gaming! |
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| #11 |
 CQC deffan |
2008-03-05 14:28:43 |
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against |
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| #12 |
 MiB'qbarca |
2008-03-05 15:40:58 |
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sex - YES, game - YES, drugs - NO... |
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| #13 |
 tek9.KNALLER |
2008-03-05 16:04:59 |
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weed is fun :p rest of the drugs: no
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| #14 |
sloom |
2008-03-05 17:24:10 |
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weed isnt legal here |
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| #15 |
 leito |
2008-03-05 17:47:17 |
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nice read, but i'll never stop with smoking marihuana at least I think it.. for the time being .)
edited 2008-03-05 22:06:46
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| #16 |
bustbashTWICE- |
2008-03-05 18:16:55 |
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I smoke weed often and everytime i enjoy it, i like it :p
therefore im going to go with legalize it!
i kno about the effects and im sure all the other people do who smoke it. so ye :p |
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| #17 |
 SILKZAOOO |
2008-03-05 19:16:01 |
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nice read;) |
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| #18 |
 alekzoor |
2008-03-05 21:57:13 |
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Weird i just had a bong before coming on this and it is an interesting read.
I Smoke cannabis not regularly back at home but since being in canada since jan we've been going through an ounce and it's finished about 5/6 days after and thats between 4 of us and it'll continue till april no doubt.
I enjoy the drug and i know about the consequenses of doing it heavily and i see it as a phase in life more than anything and when i'm home i do want to stop.
On nights out i'll usually have a few PR'd with me and as i don't drink (I'm a t total (H))the weeds combined with other substances...it's also alot more cheaper...discuss?
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vdesire`slAAI |
2008-03-05 22:54:26 |
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nice article.
I think the dutch system has some good sides to it, they can control the use on a certain level. But like alcohol, not every1 gets sick or dies from it. So why make soft drugs illegal, and have alcohol (a hard drug) legal.
If you legalize it to some extend, you can actually control the use of the product (ofcourse there are allways people who over use it). Alcohol has the same system you cannot use up to a certain amount. Whenever you are driving, you are not allowed to buy alcohol (beer) untill you are 16 (at least in NL), heavier stuff from 18. The dutch soft drugs system works the same, you can only buy it from certain shops (same goes for heavy alcohol like whisky), and you can only buy it from 18 and higher.
The only downside to the entire subject is. A lot of soft drugs going around in NL is home made, which is actually a lot more harmful then the legal stuff is (eg the one you buy in coffee shops).
Same goes for alcohol though if you make alcohol at home you can actually die pretty easy, it is very bad for your health and not really something to do.
edited 2008-03-05 22:56:02
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backstabbed |
2008-03-06 00:54:54 |
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legalizle cannabis, while we're on the topic.. fuck what it does to your head, it's your choice... and it would be ALOT easier to control if it was legal.
Smoking and alcohol destroys your mind aswell so I don't see why cannabis is illegal.
edited 2008-03-06 00:56:34
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| #21 |
Meth2 |
2008-03-06 01:55:43 |
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Very interesting article.
I'm going with legalizing, 'cause in most european countries it's not that difficult to buy some weed of the streets, in my opinion it's best to have control in coffeeshops so it's certain that people will get tested and approved weed.
I'm a regular user of weed and my mind hasn't been effected by it (atleast not noticeable to people around me). I think it's the people who are having psychological issues who're really effected by the use of weed.
Weed is an "emotions-booster", someone who is already a bit depressed starting to smoke weed regularly is bound to get himself into more psychological problems.
As long as weed is used in responsible hands there's nothing to worry about. It's the same with alcohol.
edited 2008-03-06 01:57:17
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 LGT Crysti |
2008-03-06 04:10:36 |
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Good read.
I smoke whenever I can get my hands on some and ain't had any side-effects. Other drugs I would say no cos I've seen what kind of harm they're capable to cause, have to say tho that MDMA(ecstasy) isn't a bad drug either, have popped some ex's.
It sounds bad cos its a form of amfetamin but it doesn't cause any kind of physical dependancy either.
Going with legalizing aswell. Tobacco and alcohol are more dangerous than weed is. |
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| #23 |
 k1ck mow |
2008-03-06 14:58:53 |
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DRUGS YES YES YES |
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| #24 |
alanN |
2008-03-06 17:09:43 |
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#20 yes while were at it legalize every other drug who gives a shit what it does to u its your choice . u dumb shit stfu. people saying weed is'nt a bad drug cause u have a smoke now and then with your buddies u got no clue at all, but u smoke it day in day out and u will see what happens
#23 people like u aint never touched a drug in your life dont say shit to try and big yourself up just makes u look like a retard |
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| #25 |
towers |
2008-03-06 19:45:38 |
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always gd 2 have a spliff at the end of a party or afta a few drnks with some mates, but people who smoke it on the regular don't realise how much its fucking their heads up.
ma mate has an awful memory afta smokin 2-3 spliffs a day since he was 13 .. alcohol barely fucks u up have as bad as weed, dont know y ppl smoke joints in place of drinkin on the regular
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#euroCASSIAS |
2008-03-06 21:25:15 |
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Alcohol YES YES
Drugs Haven't used anything, but maybe i will try some shit soon
Sigaretts DOUBLENO ( haven't smoked 1 single sigaret in my life yet:D )
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| #27 |
dokgermaine |
2008-03-06 21:46:58 |
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weeds alright after a few drinks, or when it's free. cba paying for it though, stingy :) |
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| #28 |
 redLine.LouisC |
2008-03-06 23:05:25 |
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nice article |
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| #29 |
Korpi |
2008-03-06 23:08:19 |
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I think it's stupid to justify the legalisation of weed by comparing it to alcohol and tobacco. The thing is, alcohol and tobacco shouldn't be legal either, they just happen to have such a strong grip on society that prohibiting them aint gonna happen anytime soon. That however does not mean that we need more chemicals to screw ourselves up.
I'm gonna go with No. |
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| #30 |
tek9.dfb |
2008-03-07 12:47:28 |
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Loved the article, really did. Keep that up! |
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| #31 |
k1ck mow |
2008-03-07 15:26:23 |
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#24 hahahaha your the one that makes me laugh cuz yes ive touched in drugs, i touch on them everyday.
One of the reasons I quit playing its cuz I prefer enjoying all time I can with my friends, drinking, smoking pipes and having fun and not playing. Come to portugal in the summer and you can smoke a pipe with me ;)
Plus, I don't get it why you actually say people look big if they smoke drugs, I do smoke everyday a pipe atleast, but that doesn't make any1 bigger than the others, actually just blows ur fucking brain and you'll die sooner, its your choice if you prefer to enjoy your life smoking and drinking and have a shorter life but enjoying it more (if this is your way of enjoying), depends on the atitude of the person, which in my case is a yes, i prefer to drink a lot, smoke a lot and die sooner than to not enjoy and die when im 70 years old.
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leito |
2008-03-07 16:29:21 |
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#31 idd
#24 try to enjoy your rl and stop writing shits like..
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#23 people like u aint never touched a drug in your life dont say shit to try and big yourself up just makes u look like a retard |
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dirtmcgirt |
2008-03-07 18:05:01 |
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#25 alcohol is a depressant and people still tend to drink when theyre down(hypocrisy anyone?), my dad is schizophrenic and he both drinks and smokes weed (i know not the smartest thing to do but he has been drinking for god knows how long). i know he'd be MUCH better off quitting alcohol and instead smoke weed, i'm not saying weed is better but you can't deny the fact that alcohol destroys you in ways weed could not. YES it affects your memory, it destroys brain cells, it can lead to a psychosis, but it is nowhere near as destructive and addictive(in fact weed is only psychologically addictive) as alcohol. so please don't go around saying people should instead drink regularly. if you drink occasionally, while going out with mates on the weekends or so, that's okay, just don't think you can get away with drinking day in day out and not get addicted, it's just inevitable you'll be struggling with a serious addiction very soon.
i know, you may not have meant every day of the week with ''drinking on the regular'' but if you did then here's what i had to say lol. |
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| #34 |
smitherines |
2008-03-07 19:53:01 |
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I <3 weed. |
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| #35 |
tek9.joe |
2008-03-08 02:16:36 |
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interesting... |
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| #36 |
alekzoor |
2008-03-10 00:28:58 |
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| | smitherines said: | | | I <3 weed. |
amen. |
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